I kind of like how I look with circles under my eyes, but I think it's because I'm lucky enough to not get puffy. My eyes just look extra sunken and blue-rimmed. Which doesn't bother me--on the contrary it fascinates me.

My problem is that I don't, as a rule, wear makeup. Even when I wear "makeup," I only wear tinted moisturizer or sunscreen as my base, which makes the concealer less of a conceal and more of a highlight.

Though, if I could find a foundation I don't hate, I might give your recommended products a whirl for meetings.

ETA: It does amuse me that I fought so much with my mother during my childhood/teenaged years because I wanted to wear makeup. Then, as soon as I hit adulthood, I pretty much stopped wearing it completely.

My problem is that I don't, as a rule, wear makeup. Even when I wear "makeup," I only wear tinted moisturizer or sunscreen as my base, which makes the concealer less of a conceal and more of a highlight.

Then honestly, try just the YSL stuff. It blends in so well that it doesn't look like you're wearing "makeup". You just look well-rested.

Hmmm. I may have to give that a shot, then. I'm pretty sure they carry it at Neimans. Maybe they can slap some on me and let me walk around for a day before I commit.

I don't remember when I started wearing makeup -- 16? there were no rules that I remember, but I had to keep it light. my father hated nail polish, so I only wore it to bug him. He also hated pierced ears and didn't want us to do it. So I think I did it my first month at collage. Now, no make up and rarely wear earing and only toe polish.

Kristen, the YSL didn't work for me, but Time Balm by The Balm is GREAT for a concealer. Although it's heavy, application with a light touch in the right places means I don't have to wear any other makeup.

Am I the only one who thought Kate Moss looked better without make-up?

Nope. That wasn't even a good no-makeup picture of her. Jessica Simpson, as mention, also improved without it.

Okay, I'm making a list. Assuming I ever have a meeting again, I'll give these a shot and see if any work.

Thanks for the recs Jilli & Plei. Will def look into them. Is there any way to get samples?

This older couple is kicking all kinds of ass on CC.

One of the doctor's waiting room magazines I was reading yesterday had a small piece on Dita Von Teese, and showed an adult picture of her without makeup. She pretty much just looked different. Not awful, and almost not worse (well, she can be quite breathtaking all dolled up, so it's an unfair comparison), but mostly just like a different woman.

I'd love to be able to do SHAZAM! makeup. Without the lightning, natch. And not even just makeup. Just the ability to do a head to toe look. But in the end everything just wobbles and loses steam when it reaches near to my hair, because it just is what it is and can't be played with to any useful extent. So when I do my 50s day dresses with lace panels I'm still the kinda tall black chick with no hair dressed like Doris Day.

Kate Moss is really lovely.

I should look into a concealer too. My usual make up route (thanks to Plei's rec) is powder foundation with an illuminating powder over it. And just the illuminating powder if I'm not teaching. I didn't wear make up all that often until I hit my late 30s. But now I have to say I greatly appreciate the powder's ability to throw my face into slightly softer focus.