Take me, sir. Take me hard.

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Apr 29, 2008 12:08:26 pm PDT #4115 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Not that it really makes me more decisive, but still.

Like, we just want some input. Location? Cost? Anything? Bueller?

Edited to remove the whiny.

Mostly the challenge was finding a hotel for 1 night for 5 people.


Burrell - Apr 29, 2008 12:23:55 pm PDT #4116 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Apropos of today's discussion, I gave Frances some fruity smelling lip gloss for Easter. She just came over to me and put some on my lips. And I've also put clear sparkly nail polish on her toes.

So I'm guessing that makes me the parent who lets her daughter wear make up at 4, forget about 12. I have a clear memory of wearing lip gloss in grade school myself (remember Bonnie Bell?). I'm wondering when it became such a big deal.


Theodosia - Apr 29, 2008 12:24:49 pm PDT #4117 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

As long as we're talking makeup, here's an ABC News slide show comparing celebrities with and without makeup:

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I found it all kinds of encouraging because quite frankly I'm no worse looking than some of them without the glitz.


Jesse - Apr 29, 2008 12:26:56 pm PDT #4118 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So I'm guessing that makes me the parent who lets her daughter wear make up at 4, forget about 12. I have a clear memory of wearing lip gloss in grade school myself (remember Bonnie Bell?). I'm wondering when it became such a big deal.

I remember being really pissed when I couldn't wear makeup and heels at like 12 or so, because I could play with it when I was younger. My mother's point was that now it wasn't playing, and I was still too young for that. (Then when I was probably 13 she took me to see her makeup ladies. I don't wear makeup regularly now.)


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2008 12:35:15 pm PDT #4119 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I found it all kinds of encouraging because quite frankly I'm no worse looking than some of them without the glitz.

Hell yes. Give me a professional makeup artist, stylist, fancy clothes, photographer and someone touching up my pictures in Photoshop? Booyah. Even if I valued looks I couldn't let those women make me feel worse about myself. Most of them aren't real. And for those who are? Bully for the Halle Berry's of the world. Then what?


megan walker - Apr 29, 2008 12:37:45 pm PDT #4120 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Am I the only one who thought Kate Moss looked better without make-up?


Burrell - Apr 29, 2008 12:38:55 pm PDT #4121 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Okay, most of those women looked perfectly normal sans make up, but both pictures of Goldie Hawn scared me. Also? Madonna is wearing make up in both. How could they not notice?

ION, my son is running around naked. What is it about toddlers? Always naked.


Scrappy - Apr 29, 2008 12:40:43 pm PDT #4122 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I thought Jessica Simpson looked fabulous without make-up. Ditto Kim Kardashian.


megan walker - Apr 29, 2008 12:41:27 pm PDT #4123 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I thought Jessica Simpson looked fabulous without make-up.

Yes, but she was completely unrecognizable.


Burrell - Apr 29, 2008 12:45:40 pm PDT #4124 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I can sorta see the distinction between playing with make up and wearing it, but I'm pretty sure that those who condemn make up don't.

Hell yes. Give me a professional makeup artist, stylist, fancy clothes, photographer and someone touching up my pictures in Photoshop? Booyah.

Yeah, my wedding taught me that being beautiful is more about money, time, and production values than good genes.