Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage.

Oz ,'First Date'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 8:18:23 am PDT #4056 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Miley seems to be one of the few in this bunch of star kids whose parents have some career other than her. I mean, Billy Ray hadn't really been in the public eye much between Achy Breaky Heart and Hannah Montana, but he still had those royalties and stuff, and it looks like he did have a bunch of songs in between that got some decent airplay on the country charts. With Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan, on the other hand, it seems like the kids' careers are the only thing the parents have.


hippocampus - Apr 29, 2008 8:24:17 am PDT #4057 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

hey Kat, did you get my other email this morning?


Jesse - Apr 29, 2008 8:31:35 am PDT #4058 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I've decided that the red flag for exploiting kid performers is pretty simple: is the family on the payroll.

Isn't that true of every kid performer? I don't even think being the family breadwinner is a sure bet to be fucked-up -- look at Sarah Jessica Parker. She may or may not have been exploited, but she never flipped out.


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2008 8:35:00 am PDT #4059 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Hil's point is a good one, that Miley was hardly the only way the Cyruses were getting dinner on the table. Most of the other Disney kids, though...


Sparky1 - Apr 29, 2008 8:39:09 am PDT #4060 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

It seems like parents are going to have to be more involved/careful (whatever) if they have a kid who is a performer. My nephew has a friend who is a child actor and who has been cast in a couple of series -- when he's over at my sister's house, there's a long list of things he's not allowed to do, and what she must do if anything happens -- because the studio doesn't want the kid to get bruised or otherwise marked.

And so even if nothing happens, the kid is still aware that there's a sort of hyper-awareness surrounding him. And that mother pretty much had a full time job making sure of all this.


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 8:40:13 am PDT #4061 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Sox, yes! THANK YOU! Also I'm wading through my inbox and sent you an answer to an older email.


Trudy Booth - Apr 29, 2008 8:42:39 am PDT #4062 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And so even if nothing happens, the kid is still aware that there's a sort of hyper-awareness surrounding him. And that mother pretty much had a full time job making sure of all this.

That's the parents choice though. Some parents nod and smile and if the kid gets a bruise deal with it then. I've known both kinds.


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 8:42:55 am PDT #4063 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

When I was a kid, I had a few friends who did theatre stuff, but I think that Broadway is a different environment for kids than TV or movies. Also, none of them were the breadwinner for their families by any means -- most of the money got put into their college funds.


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 8:45:28 am PDT #4064 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I saw an interview with the guy who played Theo on The Cosby Show where he said that his mother always made him come along to any meeting with the accountant or manager or anything to do with the money he was earning. He thought it was really boring at age 14, but his mother said that she didn't want him to ever say that he didn't know what happened to his money.


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2008 8:45:59 am PDT #4065 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Brilliant candidate for plastination.