I *just* heard that mentioned on the radio.
Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?
'Trash'
Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
sarameg - Apr 22, 2008 2:33:03 pm PDT #3042 of 10001
msbelle - Apr 22, 2008 2:41:11 pm PDT #3043 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
touching my boobs may be theraputic, too bad you're a loser
- that is the shirt I'd wear.
ION, my brain is being my enemy right now.
Steph L. - Apr 22, 2008 2:42:46 pm PDT #3044 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
As for the boobie kerfuffle I am so tremendously creeped out by a guy achieving the level of "healing" depicted in LJ just by touching a strange woman's breasts. What is wrong with you that gets fixed that way?
I find it incredibly creepy--not the touchy touchy part of it at all--I've done way too much groundwork to be bothered by that, but by the allusions to undoing highschool psychological damage.
See, my issues are (1) how PROUD he and his cadre are for coming up with the idea of the Magical Healing Con Grope; (2) yes/no BUTTONS??? seriously???; (3) ....wait, #3 is too long for a list.
(3) Okay, fine. People who know each other asking for/offering up a grope, whatever. I have no room to complain, as I am -- if you will all kindly remember -- one of the founders of Too Much Candy, which is also an opt-in situation. And Too Much Candy is all yay!fun (I hope) among friends (I hope). But to go so far as to make it all official and shit, with buttons and whatnot? That's just (a) lame and (b) unacceptably intrusive upon the people at the con who don't even want to know it's going on, much less that they can codify their assent/dissent via a color-coded button.
LAME.
And finally, (4) I have 2 words for you: Sexual. Assault.
Although mostly, what bugs me the most is subsection (b) of item (3) -- the fact that this tee-hee Magical Healing Groperie is being nonconsensually forced into the awareness of the con-goers. That's so fucking inappropriate, I don't even know where to start.
brenda m - Apr 22, 2008 2:44:58 pm PDT #3045 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
What do all of the downtrodden women who were damaged by high school get to do to compensate?
They get to have their boobs groped, thus proving to themselves that they are "good enough."
And I am so not making that up.
Jesse - Apr 22, 2008 2:49:22 pm PDT #3046 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Really? It's not locked.
I got it when I tried again. Oy vey.
Gudanov - Apr 22, 2008 2:49:38 pm PDT #3047 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
The whole groping thing is just messed up. I have nothing to add that isn't covered in Steph's itemization.
brenda m - Apr 22, 2008 2:50:22 pm PDT #3048 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
(3) Okay, fine. People who know each other asking for/offering up a grope, whatever. I have no room to complain, as I am -- if you will all kindly remember -- one of the founders of Too Much Candy, which is also an opt-in situation. And Too Much Candy is all yay!fun (I hope) among friends (I hope). But to go so far as to make it all official and shit, with buttons and whatnot? That's just (a) lame and (b) unacceptably intrusive upon the people at the con who don't even want to know it's going on, much less that they can codify their assent/dissent via a color-coded button.
It was pointed out in an lj thread that the con where this originated is a pretty small, tightly knit group. To me (aside from the the "save the world by treating women like objects who exist to heal your wounds") it's the institutionalization element that skeeves me, that they have this vision that they'll spread this to every con, every event...and suddenly, if I were thinking of going to DragonCon, I'd be seriously re-thinking at this point. Or any other con these jackholes were likely to show up at. Because the whole thing is just so abhorrent that any sighting would pretty much sour me on the whole thing.
And how easily one more hostile environment is born.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 22, 2008 2:52:51 pm PDT #3049 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
And Too Much Candy is all yay!fun (I hope) among friends (I hope).
I think friends is the operative word there. I'm much more comfortable with hugs and other displays of affection among friends than I am with random people at public events who allegedly share some of my interests in entertainment. Also, I can't recall anyone ever being whinged at or insulted if they didn't want to participate in Too Much Candy.
Trudy Booth - Apr 22, 2008 2:57:38 pm PDT #3050 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Too Much Candy is so fully consentual and easily modified.
Dammit.
And utterly not sexist.
§ ita § - Apr 22, 2008 2:59:29 pm PDT #3051 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I got it when I tried again.
Somebody's boobs aren't up to par.
I tried not to read too many comments, because I only have so much blood pressure go around, and I got too close to a migraine with the Quantum Leap stupidity yesterday, but I did see mention of just that--boobs being up to par. Women saying "Are mine good enough to be groped?"
Oh, what a world of psychological disorder.