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I think of "savory" as salty and herby with no sweet.
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Tamara - Apr 21, 2008 7:48:55 am PDT #2827 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Steph L. - Apr 21, 2008 7:51:33 am PDT #2828 of 10001
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Okay, thinking this through further -- "savory" implies a richness to the food, and a particular mouthfeel that seems to come from fat content.
Add in not-sweet, and I guess that's savory to me.
Tamara - Apr 21, 2008 7:52:46 am PDT #2829 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
savory = beef stew.
beth b - Apr 21, 2008 7:53:14 am PDT #2830 of 10001
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well, for me savory is not-sweet. however, It also means not spicy or salty either.
I think savory is a combinations of flavors.
Steph L. - Apr 21, 2008 7:54:14 am PDT #2831 of 10001
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savory = beef stew.
Right! But I would also call really melt-in-your-mouth biscuits (American biscuits, not cookies) savory, because of the mouthfeel.
I'm overthinking this, but it bugs me when I can't define a word that I actually use.
beth b - Apr 21, 2008 7:55:28 am PDT #2832 of 10001
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ok - a piece of cheese on its own is not savory. however in french onion soup it adds to the beef and carmalized onions to make a savory dish.
Pix - Apr 21, 2008 7:57:44 am PDT #2833 of 10001
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Jessica - Apr 21, 2008 8:01:42 am PDT #2834 of 10001
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I think of sweet and savory as antonyms. So yeah, savory encompasses a wider range of specific flavors (since you pretty much only get "sweet" from sugar in some form or another, but savory can come from almost anything else).
a piece of cheese on its own is not savory
And I'd disagree with this, since a cheese course can be considered "a savory" in the same way a dessert course is considered "a sweet."
Lemme see if I can find that Gourmet article about sweet/savory from a few years back.
Steph L. - Apr 21, 2008 8:02:39 am PDT #2835 of 10001
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Lemme see if I can find that Gourmet article about sweet/savory from a few years back.
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Jessica - Apr 21, 2008 8:08:09 am PDT #2836 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
The savory is a little bite of something rich, salty, and piquant—a marrow toast, perhaps, or a stuffed egg, a talmouse (a kind of cheese tartlet), or a potted lobster. It was placed here and there in a meal that could run to as many as 12 different courses, but it eventually found its place at the very end. Very simply put, this allowed the gentlemen, if they wished, to eschew the sweet and round off the meal with something that was less cloying and led the palate more directly to the glass of brandy and the after-dinner cigar. Conversely, it was generally felt that the ladies ought to skip the savory and take the sweet. This naturally led to coffee in the drawing room, away from the fumes of alcohol and tobacco, where—as wine authority Darrell Corti recently pointed out to me—they could have first crack at the bathroom.