Marco: Do we look reasonable to you? Mal: Well. Looks can be deceiving. Jayne: Not as deceiving as a low down dirty... deceiver.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Apr 17, 2008 9:34:57 am PDT #2439 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I don't know about SoCal, but there are a lot of newish mini mansions that won't be rented out for this reason. Rents on du/tri/fourplexes run from $650-$1200, an older home (bungalow, probably only one bathroom) is $325,000 at the low end. The newer monstrosities are half a million easy.

So, if you can afford to buy, are you going for the cheaper bungalow, and if you decide to wait and just rent are you going to pay the cheap rent or the one that covers payments on a $500,000 loan?


CaBil - Apr 17, 2008 9:56:57 am PDT #2440 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

I forget the exact casual link, but there was a renter's index floating around that showed that they were being hammered also. Let's see if I can dig it up...


Nutty - Apr 17, 2008 9:59:16 am PDT #2441 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Also, as the housing prices fall, the amount of rent that can be demanded for properties falls.

Interestingly, the reverse was not the case (anyway, not across the board) when times were high. Anyway, I lived in the same neighborhood for the 5 biggest years of the boom, and rent stayed pretty much the same throughout.

(I live in a tight and unexpandable housing market, so that might be a factor; and throughout those 5 years people were taking rental properties and turning them into condos.)


Fred Pete - Apr 17, 2008 10:02:42 am PDT #2442 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Interestingly, the reverse was not the case (anyway, not across the board) when times were high.

I can't prove this, but I'd bet the reason is that a lot of people who'd otherwise rent were able to get mortgages. Leaving the supply lower than it otherwise would be.


Scrappy - Apr 17, 2008 10:20:07 am PDT #2443 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, the people who bought our house before us (and got it foreclosed on, thus enabling us to buy it) paid $120,000 more than we did. With the recent drop, our house is still in the average range and worth maore than our mortgage, but if prices go another 10% lower it won't be. Luckily, we aren't planning on going anywhere, so we can wait a few years until things even out.


Kat - Apr 17, 2008 10:21:48 am PDT #2444 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Thank god we are renting a house that no longer has a mortgage, but is owned outright by the same family that moved in to it in 1947. Cause tennants who are evicted because of foreclosure are screwed.


Kat - Apr 17, 2008 10:22:26 am PDT #2445 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

scrappy, I thought of you because our target has a really cute roller skate tshirt. I almost bought you one, but I was running around too quick.


hippocampus - Apr 17, 2008 10:25:15 am PDT #2446 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

job~ma Kat!


Kat - Apr 17, 2008 10:34:26 am PDT #2447 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

thanks sox! How's your little one's cold?


lori - Apr 17, 2008 10:34:54 am PDT #2448 of 10001

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