Wow. So...I should totally buy a house! Soon, I will be able to buy one for five dollars!
Damn you, Bridget! Damn you to Hades! You broke my heart in a million pieces! You made me love you, and then you-- I SHAVED MY BEARD FOR YOU, DEVIL WOMAN!
Monty ,'Trash'
Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Polter-Cow - Apr 17, 2008 8:25:58 am PDT #2410 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Consuela - Apr 17, 2008 8:26:09 am PDT #2411 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
::sigh::
And here I am trying to get a refinance. Argh.
Jessica - Apr 17, 2008 8:26:40 am PDT #2412 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Between daycare and rising food prices, we're clinging desperately to every last dollar that comes in. It's fucking ridiculous how much it costs to feed 3 people one of whom eats less than a full cup of food a day in this city.
Gudanov - Apr 17, 2008 8:28:10 am PDT #2413 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
Clinton has 98.5% of households Middle Class or lower. Obama has about 75% of households Middle Class or lower. I think it is really hard to go with Clinton's number. Obama's may be statistically reasonable, but where you live would really throws wrench into his number.
Hayden - Apr 17, 2008 8:29:01 am PDT #2414 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I hear you, Jessica. And Austin's a lot more affordable than NYC.
Nutty - Apr 17, 2008 8:29:55 am PDT #2415 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I'm... a little unclear on how economics works, but, aren't those free-falling prices the ones that were skyrocketing for no reason 3-4 years ago? So, basically, it's the totally predictable crash that brings prices back close to what they were?
Because I never understood why the prices went so high so quickly in the first place, except that they did so without me and made me bitter. (N.b. I did not turn to religion or guns as a result.) And I guess it's not unreasonable to be dismayed at the prices falling now, but, it was basically just invented money that is uninventing itself, right?
Jessica - Apr 17, 2008 8:32:49 am PDT #2416 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Clinton has 98.5% of households Middle Class or lower. Obama has about 75% of households Middle Class or lower. I think it is really hard to go with Clinton's number. Obama's may be statistically reasonable, but where you live would really throws wrench into his number.
I agree that saying "middle class" = "25-75th percentiles" is reasonable (based on the meaning of the word "middle"), but it has to be calculated locally. $100k in NYC and $100k in the middle of Iowa are not the same income level.
tommyrot - Apr 17, 2008 8:33:20 am PDT #2417 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I'm... a little unclear on how economics works, but, aren't those free-falling prices the ones that were skyrocketing for no reason 3-4 years ago?
Yep.
So, basically, it's the totally predictable crash that brings prices back close to what they were?
Unless you managed to convince yourself that prices would continue to rise. Which it seems like most home buyers in recent years did. I dunno - it's the weird psychology of market bubbles, where people tell each other, "The usual rules no longer apply."
Emily - Apr 17, 2008 8:34:50 am PDT #2418 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
I think my definition would definitely stay below six figures. On the other hand, a living wage in, say, my town now has NOTHING to do with a living wage in New York, so that has to be considered, and I also think family size should be considered. So I might consider $150,000 for a family of six middle-class in New York, whereas here it'd be, well, high on the hog.
Gudanov - Apr 17, 2008 8:35:07 am PDT #2419 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
Obama's may be statistically reasonable, but where you live would really throws wrench into his number.
Crap, my sentence really sucked.
Obama's may be statistically reasonable, but where you live really throws a wrench into his numbers.