One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Apr 16, 2008 2:12:19 pm PDT #2200 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

If it's any consolation, it wasn't all that great. I do not understand the urge to put lettuce in soup. All greens are not the same, Chinese restaurant people!

A friend of mine with a Chinese Mother and an American Father says that the great lettuce cooking debate was a recurring theme in her childhood.


Pix - Apr 16, 2008 2:20:15 pm PDT #2201 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Traditionally, 12th grade was Brit Lit, though I'm seeing more and more of a shift to broaden that scope.

Some of the common texts I've seen across schools are some Shakespeare (King Lear/Hamlet/Twelfth Night), some kind of Austen (P&P or S&S are common), Jane Eyre, 18th/19th century British poetry, Candide, The Heart of Darkness, Their Eyes Were Watching God, Beloved, Things Fall Apart, and Beowulf. There are tons more, of course, but those are the ones that immediately came to mind.


Consuela - Apr 16, 2008 2:40:05 pm PDT #2202 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

A friend of mine with a Chinese Mother and an American Father says that the great lettuce cooking debate was a recurring theme in her childhood.

Yeah, I dunno. Is lettuce even eaten in China? I don't mind cabbage or bok choy or spinach, but plain lettuce? Just seems wrong to me.


Kat - Apr 16, 2008 2:47:32 pm PDT #2203 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Kat, do you mean specifically at my current school, or in general?

I meant in general. I've also seen a mix of Brit Lit with World Lit added on. I also know that some 12th English is Senior Composition and not a lit class at all. I was just trying to get a handle on it. Interestingly, the standards don't address what texts to focus on. But it does say what type of analysis to do (socio-political analysis rather than historical).


flea - Apr 16, 2008 2:58:47 pm PDT #2204 of 10001
information libertarian

Barack Obama just robo-called me. It's so weird for NC to be actually in play.


amych - Apr 16, 2008 3:10:44 pm PDT #2205 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Barack Obama just robo-called me.

I'm still voting for him, but this makes me really glad I don't have a real (=listed, landline) phone number. Likewise, I reliably vote for our (congressional) House rep, have met him multiple times, blather at him about every damned lefty issue in email, but every robo-call I ever got when I had a landline, I was like, Dave, Dude, DON'T FUCKING CALL ME WITH YOUR CREEPY RECORDED MESSAGE.

It's so weird for NC to be actually in play.

I know?! There were some Pennsylvania ladies on the NPR this morning who were all "I know the DNC says this needs to end, but nobody's ever given a shit about our vote before" and I so got that.


sarameg - Apr 16, 2008 3:16:52 pm PDT #2206 of 10001

Oooh, good luck with the interview, Kat!

Even my roomba is being stupid today. Kept going to the same spot and getting stuck.

(Of course, there is the question of who truly was stupider: me or the machine? I should've blocked the spot off the first time it got stuck, not to mention the fourth...)

All I remember from 12th grade english was getting the hysterical giggles over As I Lay Dying in class. And then during the AP exam, I had to use it for an essay and I got the giggles AGAIN. Everyone in the room knew exactly why and THEY started laughing. After the test, they were all "So you wrote about AILD, huh?" It was bad. I don't even remember what passage exactly triggered the giggles.


Jesse - Apr 16, 2008 3:18:22 pm PDT #2207 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I took electives for 12th grade English -- writing and speech.

Good luck, Kat!

Technology is making me cry.


Hil R. - Apr 16, 2008 3:25:34 pm PDT #2208 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I had British lit in eleventh grade, then AP English in twelfth. It wasn't until a few years later that I realized we hadn't read a single book by a female author during AP English. (At least, none that I could remember. We had a bunch of Greek stuff, then Shakespeare, then a mix of other stuff, but I couldn't remember anything written by a woman. Can't remember everything else we read -- some Hemingway, some Falkner, Heart of Darkness, Turn of the Screw, Mourning Become Elektra, The Stranger, and I can't remember what else.)


sarameg - Apr 16, 2008 3:29:33 pm PDT #2209 of 10001

Just don't cry ON the technology, Jesse! That might result in rending of garments.