There was petting! They showed them petting at the aunt's house.
Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?
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Tom Scola - Apr 08, 2008 5:35:34 am PDT #205 of 10001
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Emily - Apr 08, 2008 5:37:26 am PDT #206 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Wow. Er, how are you defining petting?
For that matter, I'm not sure how anybody defines petting. It's always been shrouded in mystery for me.
(In reference to humans, that is.)
msbelle - Apr 08, 2008 5:38:18 am PDT #207 of 10001
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OH! I saw just a bit of S&S and I saw that bit and I did not think they had the sex or that it was implied.
lisah - Apr 08, 2008 5:38:25 am PDT #208 of 10001
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There was petting! They showed them petting at the aunt's house.
Well, their hands brushed each against each others and there was that one kiss.
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What is "petting" anyway? I always imagined as a kid that it was stroking your beloveds hair.
Dana - Apr 08, 2008 5:38:37 am PDT #209 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
I remember them barely kissing, but it's been a couple of months since I saw that version.
As for the illness, I think the implication is that Marianne either a) basically works herself into a state over Willoughby or b) is so worked up that she displays no judgment at all and exhausts herself while walking in the rain. Her whole illness is the last hurrah of her being the one with "sensibility", as opposed to sense.
Tom Scola - Apr 08, 2008 5:39:25 am PDT #210 of 10001
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Well, they definitely made it to first base, and they showed him unfastening pieces of her clothing, so he had rounded first base and was headed to second before they cut away.
lisah - Apr 08, 2008 5:39:58 am PDT #211 of 10001
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b) is so worked up that she displays no judgment at all and exhausts herself while walking in the rain.
This is what I thought as well. And that the exhaustion lowered her immune system and she caught the virus or whatever that made her dangerously ill.
sumi - Apr 08, 2008 5:40:48 am PDT #212 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
She gets chilled from walking in the rain in a state of mental anguish. . . or something.
I couldn't believe that they had Brandon carry her all the way from the carriage across the threshold in their final scene. Was that just to prove what a manly man he is?
flea - Apr 08, 2008 5:41:17 am PDT #213 of 10001
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My definition of "petting" is kissing plus minor above the waist clothed groping. "Heavy petting" would take that below the waist and might get underneath the clothes.
I very much doubt Austen meant to imply that Marianne kissed Willoughby at all. She was reckless in giving him her heart, but there was never any question that her morals were compromised. And kissing men you are not officially engaged to was a big no.
amych - Apr 08, 2008 5:50:28 am PDT #214 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
b) is so worked up that she displays no judgment at all and exhausts herself while walking in the rain.
That's what I got from the novel, but I'll note that I haven't seen the TV version.
My definition of "petting" was unclothed groping, with flea's above/below the waist distinction. Also, my definition of "petting" was "one of those weird terms that the cheesy sex-ed materials left over from the 50s like to use". And whatever it is, I'd be shocked if it were in Austen.