Oh, no, oh, no! Spontaneous poetic exclamations. Lord, spare me college boys in love.

Dr. Walsh ,'Potential'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Apr 15, 2008 6:46:04 am PDT #1856 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

she's also busy checking to make sure I haven't suggested to anyone that replacing her 'a' with an 'o' is ver' funny.

Sux!


hippocampus - Apr 15, 2008 6:46:59 am PDT #1857 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

see. you were just sitting there waiting for that.

it's just like when we were kids, sporky.


Nutty - Apr 15, 2008 6:48:03 am PDT #1858 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

things like Tolkien's work must have been lexicon-ified while under copyright.

I was curious about this, and from a cursory scroll through Wikipedia, it looks like there haven't been any print lexicons. Online, quite a few encyclopedias, but print has all been (a) journal articles and (b) reader's guides. Of course, in Tolkien's case, it can be kind of hard to develop definitive dictionary-style information without recourse to things like private notebooks, which are under the control of his estate. (Moreso, I mean, than his published letters and canon works.)

Actually, come to think, I read an interesting essay a couple years back about Joyce scholars, and how they have to mollycoddle some grand-nephew of James Joyce (invite him to symposia and let him ramble at length; not publish anything embarrassing etc.) or else they can't get permission to quote from Joyce's works in their scholarship. And how it drove them all bananas, but that there wasn't anything they could do about it. (These weren't lexicon efforts, but the quoting issue is the same.)


Sparky1 - Apr 15, 2008 6:50:45 am PDT #1859 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

I was curious about this, and from a cursory scroll through Wikipedia, it looks like there haven't been any print lexicons.

Sure there have: [link]


Strega - Apr 15, 2008 6:52:06 am PDT #1860 of 10001

The Guardian sums it up this way:

So the fundamental principles of the case are likely to determine the outcome. The first of these is whether there is a material distinction as far as copyright is concerned between something that is published on the web and something that is published in print. [...]Dave Hammer, RDR's New York attorney, doesn't believe the law distinguishes between digital and printed copyright.

Which brings us to the second key principle. How much control can authors exert over works that make use of their characters? Rowling's lawyers claim the Lexicon has no creative value and contributes nothing to the readers' understanding of the Harry Potter series. Merely rearranging facts into an alphabetical order does not turn it into a secondary, scholarly reference work.

Doing his best to demolish that argument is Anthony Falzone, a lecturer in law at Stanford Law School who advises on intellectual property. He will be representing RDR for free - the only reason the case has made it to court, as most publishers of RDR's size don't have the money to take on Rowling or Warner Bros. "This is a hugely important case about a third party's right to create a new reference book that is designed to help others better understand the original work," he says. "No one is going to buy, or indeed make sense of, the Lexicon unless they have read the Harry Potter books."

[link]


Dana - Apr 15, 2008 6:53:22 am PDT #1861 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I believe RDR's "lexicon expert" is supposed to testify at some point, so we may learn more about lexicons through the ages.


Daisy Jane - Apr 15, 2008 6:55:57 am PDT #1862 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Haven't Joyce's relatives tried to keep his sexay letters private? I wonder how Eco fared when he wrote his Joyce essay.


Nutty - Apr 15, 2008 6:56:37 am PDT #1863 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Sure there have

Aha! Add that to the Tolkien research entry on Wikipedia!


tommyrot - Apr 15, 2008 6:57:30 am PDT #1864 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, 8-year-old boy suspended for sniffing marker

A teacher sent him to the principal when she noticed him smelling the marker and his clothing.

"It smelled good," [Eathan] Harris said. "They told me that's wrong."

Eathan shyly shook his head "no" when a reporter asked if he knew about "huffing."

[Principal Chris] Benisch stands by his decision to suspend Harris, saying it sends a clear message about substance abuse.

"This is really, really, seriously dangerous," Benisch said.

In his letter suspending the child, Benisch wrote that smelling the marker fumes could cause the boy to "become intoxicated."

A toxicologist with the Rocky Mountain Poison Control Center says that claim is nearly impossible.

Of course, we don't know the specifics, such as "how long was he sniffing it?"

Also, good thing they don't use mimeographed paper anymore.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 15, 2008 7:00:07 am PDT #1865 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ah, the real purple prose!