Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Apr 14, 2008 10:03:08 am PDT #1668 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was 20 before I ever took public transit by myself. 'Cuz that was when I first needed to, and lived in a city that had it.

My parents' farm is 1 1/2 miles from our small town. I think I was about 9 or 10 when they started letting me ride my bike to town, along the moderately busy 2-lane highway that our farm is on.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2008 10:03:52 am PDT #1669 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is Waking the Dead all done?

Done done? I don't know. BBC America has been very lax with the mysteries recently. I am assuming that the current Wire In the Blood is repeats, though. I should check.

You watched the Frankie Munoz Criminal Minds right? They're not usually like that.

Yeah, that was bizarre. So, second chance.

My unresearched answer would probably be that if, by providing the safe deposit numbers you knew the object of the conspiracy was to rob a bank, then yes, it's possible to be charged with felony murder. Aiding and abetting, that I'm not sure about.

Providing the list is more culpable than aiding and abetting? What's an example of A&A?


Trudy Booth - Apr 14, 2008 10:05:11 am PDT #1670 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Kids are so different, you know? My one sister and I could have done the subway home thing alone at nine or ten. The other sister was pretty shy at that age and would NOT have enjoyed it. She could probably do it, but it would have been very upsetting for her.


Kristen - Apr 14, 2008 10:06:05 am PDT #1671 of 10001

I know I was 14 when I started taking the subway into the city for school. But I'm pretty sure I was hopping the subway to Queens Center Mall long before that.


tommyrot - Apr 14, 2008 10:06:46 am PDT #1672 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Kids are so different, you know? My one sister and I could have done the subway home thing alone at nine or ten. The other sister was pretty shy at that age and would NOT have enjoyed it. She could probably do it, but it would have been very upsetting for her.

Good point. The son of the essayist really really wanted to, and has been begging his mom for a while to let him have his solo subway adventure.


tommyrot - Apr 14, 2008 10:07:25 am PDT #1673 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Also, in England they let a cat take a bus alone....


juliana - Apr 14, 2008 10:08:19 am PDT #1674 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Small-town AK, but I still made my parents drop me off at one of the few pub. trans. lines so I could take the bus somewhere else. Also, I routinely got lost in the acres and acres of woods around my parents' house.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 14, 2008 10:09:03 am PDT #1675 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Also, in England they let a cat take a bus alone....

But they don't let the pigeon drive it, do they?


bon bon - Apr 14, 2008 10:09:25 am PDT #1676 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Providing the list is more culpable than aiding and abetting? What's an example of A&A?

Actually, what I meant was the list could allow the list-provider to be charged with the robbery via either conspiracy or aiding and abetting. I know more about the former than the latter. But looking at the description of A&A, it could be both conspiracy and A&A. Uh, I got this from a memo I wrote once:

Under federal law, one who “aids and abets” another’s commission of a crime assumes the same degree of criminal responsibility as the person who commits the crime. 18 U.S.C. § 2. The elements of aiding and abetting are that (1) another person committed a crime under US federal law; (2) the defendant associated himself or herself with that criminal action; (3) the defendant assisted or participated in the criminal venture as something he or she wished to bring about; and (4) he or she sought by his or her actions to make it succeed.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2008 10:09:26 am PDT #1677 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know I'd been taking public transit to school in Jamaica, which means I was ten or so, because we moved to London at 12. And I certainly took public transit there alone right away.