You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet man!

Spike ,'Smile Time'


Spike's Bitches 40: Buckle Up, Kids! Daddy's Puttin' the Hammer Down.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Aims - May 01, 2008 4:30:28 am PDT #7216 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I don't know what KT has, but if she has voluntary STD benefits, she may want to look at the terms of her coverage.

Pneumonia, babe. She's in the hopital. Skimmer!


Miracleman - May 01, 2008 4:32:50 am PDT #7217 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I don't know what KT has, but if she has voluntary STD benefits, she may want to look at the terms of her coverage.

Pneumonia, babe. She's in the hopital. Skimmer!

I don't know what she has as far as coverage, you doof-brain.


Emily - May 01, 2008 4:46:10 am PDT #7218 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Hivemind school advice: yesterday, I gave a lecture. I made note-taking guides so the students wouldn't tax themselves trying to write down my every word, and spent a fair amount of time going over the concepts, repeating them, quizzing students on the meaning of what I'd said, and basically trying to drive home, "Yes, I know it's May and some of you won't have to take the final, but we have another month to go and you need to pay attention!" After class, I found 5 or 6 notetaking guides (out of a class of 14 students) scattered around the room, only one of them with any notes on them whatsoever. Now, obviously I am largely at fault for not integrating the notetaking sufficiently into the class, not having regular quizzes, yadda. But they know what they're supposed to do, and many of them are just not bothering. In my irritation yesterday, I wrote up a pop quiz. I have it ready and copied, it's straight off the notes, and people who were doing what they were supposed to will be able to knock it off in 5 minutes. Other people -- well, there'll be a chorus of bitching and moaning.

But I keep going over this -- is this a pedagogically sound thing to do? Is it fair? Will it, in fact, achieve anything? Or should I just give them a Talking-To (which they will shrug off as usual) and let it go, it being nearly the end of the year? Ideas?


hippocampus - May 01, 2008 4:52:27 am PDT #7219 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

Emily, though this sounds draconian, I think a pop-quiz is a good teaching tool in this case - it drives home your point from yesterday. You told them to take notes. You gave them the tools with which to do it. Et Voila - there was a reason for all of the preparation you so carefully handed to them on a silver platter.

Going to school is not just about sitting in the damn chair.

t needmorecoffee


Stephanie - May 01, 2008 4:53:59 am PDT #7220 of 10001
Trust my rage

I'm with Sox - using the talking time for a quiz.


sj - May 01, 2008 4:56:39 am PDT #7221 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Emily, give them the pop quiz and when they're horrified by their scores, give them the talking to with the study sheet in hand. You don't have to count the quizzes toward their final grade if you decide you don't want to, but maybe the students will learn a lesson.

My mother is going to be here any moment to help me start cleaning up the new place, and I stupidly can't stop crying. I'm sick of feeling sick, and I just called my doctor who is away until Tuesday.


Emily - May 01, 2008 4:59:44 am PDT #7222 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Okay. I'm just such a damn softy. Which means they, rationally enough, come to expect it from me. But I think I put enough effort into it yesterday that I have the right to feel slighted by their not responding even so much as to take notes.

Maybe it's just that they feel safe -- since I didn't report any of them as being in danger of failing, and most of the seniors won't have to take the final, they don't see the need to do anything. Oh well. Enough making excuses for them. If this seems abrupt and mood-swingy, so be it.


Stephanie - May 01, 2008 5:02:04 am PDT #7223 of 10001
Trust my rage

I think abrupt is the idea - to get their attention.


sj - May 01, 2008 5:03:30 am PDT #7224 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

What Stephanie said. Being nice shouldn't be a free pass for your students to disrespect you and the effort you put in to prepare things like study sheets for them.


Emily - May 01, 2008 5:03:36 am PDT #7225 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

give them the pop quiz and when they're horrified by their scores,

Oh, it won't take that long. It'll be just looking at the pop quiz that'll horrify them (and result in a chorus of "I lost my notes!"). Without either the notes OR having paid very close attention and having a very good memory, you can't really answer "When do you not need to define the UVW mapping?"

So my point will be made as soon as I lay the papers down. The question is whether they'll accept the lesson, or rise up and protest by.... you know what, I always overthink this shit. I can start calling parents right away if necessary.