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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2008 4:50:33 pm PDT #9634 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't care whoever else is in a bar as long as they're not dictating I change my behaviour. As long as I get to do as much boozing and swearing and ogling as I would normally, I care not a whit for my audience. On the flip side, it doesn't bother me more that it's a one year old in hysterical wordless sobbing for half an hour--in fact it probably bothers me less--than if it were a twenty five year old.

Supermarket guy suggested a red wine I could drink while I cooked with it. Do you know how many of my meds say not to drink while I'm on them? Including the big M? But I guess here is where I work out my boundaries.


Kat - Apr 04, 2008 5:01:30 pm PDT #9635 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

We don't take Noah to bars. Well, I haven't been to a bar in ages. We also don't take Noah out to dinner because he does better when he goes to sleep by 7. That limits some of the taking the baby out stuff. I'm okay with that.

However, we are often the first people in line for the various breakfast places we go to.


Kat - Apr 04, 2008 5:05:03 pm PDT #9636 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Oops. And in discussing this with K, we wouldn't take Noah to a bar for us to have a drink because I'm not putting him in a car with either of us after a drink. I'm such a lightweight now.


sarameg - Apr 04, 2008 5:13:10 pm PDT #9637 of 10001

And I should say, one point of utmost hilarity was a house party in which the 9 month old kept trying to steal bottles of beer. Of COURSE we didn't let her, but there was photo evidence and she'll get years of ribbing once she's old enough.

And then there is my brother's family. We're all about the inappropriate but enforcing the actual acceptable rules. I mean, the eldest plays with my brother's experimental brain cancer mice at the lab. But he is unaware of that his daddy kills them.

Which is kind of fucked up, but then, we handle that well.

ION, I've been following the stories of the Baltimore riots in '68 in response to MLK's assassination. It explains a lot about the state of certain parts of the city, and yet doesn't. And it is... I don't know. It raises questions, some very uncomfy. Like about self segregation. Which, as I've toyed with buying a home, has been in my mind. I ended up in this neighborhood without that legacy, because I knew jack shit about B'more, really. And despite having gone to college in the south, I was really naive concerning race issues outside the history books (I knew the striations in the hispanic community, but beyond that? Whatever. It's stupid, but when I visit my hometown, I think, wow! we've finally gotten more than 3 people of african american ancestry! It's an odd town in some ways. Anyone "black" when I was growing up was likely a professor from Africa. )


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2008 5:21:17 pm PDT #9638 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Survey shows that I'm a cheap date. How cheap? Less than a full glass of wine. Quite less.

Ah, well.


Hil R. - Apr 04, 2008 5:22:27 pm PDT #9639 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My hometown was like that, too. My elementary school had no black kids. My high school graduating class had about five, but I'm pretty sure that two of them actually lived in Paterson (city best known as the setting for "Lean On Me") and were just claiming to live with grandmothers or aunts in the suburbs. Three or four Hispanic kids, about ten or fifteen Asian, and the other 130 or so white.

I can remember a few racial incidents, though most of those were just as much about class as about race, though it can be hard to separate them. Stuff like "That's all right, that's OK, you're gonna work for us some day" at basketball games against Paterson schools. Or when someone had been stealing bike seats and handlebars from the bike rack, someone asked, "Who would steal just part of a bike, anyway?" and someone else replied, "Someone really poor. Where did you just move from again, Maria?" to a girl who'd just moved to our town from Paterson. Then there was a white girl who, for most of eighth grade, thought it was really cool to address any black guy as "Prince." Never did quite figure that one out.


Kat - Apr 04, 2008 5:26:45 pm PDT #9640 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

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Vortex - Apr 04, 2008 5:37:00 pm PDT #9641 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

just because the baby is asleep doesn't mean it should be in a bar at 9pm!

har. exactly!

Aims, I have the new kids on the today show. I never realized that the Today show was FOUR HOURS. so, they're on for 10 minutes in the middle of the show. you still want? they'll be doing a live performance on the Today show on may 16.


Hil R. - Apr 04, 2008 5:41:48 pm PDT #9642 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I never realized that the Today show was FOUR HOURS.

The fourth hour was just added recently. It used to just be three hours. The fourth hour is also horrible -- totally focused on shopping and makeup and stuff like that. (The first hour is fairly solidly newsy, then you get more and more "lifestyle" features as it goes into the later hours. I think the theory being that men will watch the first hour before they go to work, but as it gets later, the audience will skew more female.)


brenda m - Apr 04, 2008 6:44:13 pm PDT #9643 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Also, I can see how it could look good when you're standing still, but there's really nothing there to prevent bounce when actually moving.

Well, it's not a jog bra, for sure. But I'd buy it.

I have no issue with babies in bars. Kids? Maybe, yeah. But small babies? They're not bothering anyone, assuming parents who are paying attention, they're not being scarred for life, because, no comprehension, and the parents are getting out. Past infancy, it's a little more complicated. But at the babe-in-arms stage, I don't see why not.