Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2008 2:59:42 pm PDT #8994 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. Alternate surgery incursion sites. Why not? At first I thought they meant you grew your own kidney in your....whatever and they cut it out of you and then transplanted it. Into whoever needed it.

Tonight I think I shall try the vegetable stock recipe with all the roasting. And maybe toss pearl barley into some of it for dinner with veggies in, and separate the rest and freeze soup for later. And of course make sure I have something reasonably healty for lunch tomorrow--the "Oops! I forgot my lunch!" things I have most available to me are not that healthy. Not without more research.

I did not know MTV.com was posting song lyrics. That I discovered when I tried to find the singer/title of this (not rickrolling, I swear--not even audio) earworm. They have a whole copyright agreement and everything.

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Huh. That means I can copy and paste them not for profit, right?

And then they link to a video--all they need is a link to buy the MP3, and voila! Great usefulness to having lyrics easily available on the web.


Hil R. - Apr 02, 2008 3:01:42 pm PDT #8995 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I always wondered how the rabbis sat down and dealt with which New World foods would be kosher. "I have studied and studied and I see nothing in the Torah about corn. Didn't G*d know about North America?"

For grains, it's complicated. Most of the things that aren't specifically mentioned as not-for-Passover but are considered not-for-Passover by Eastern European Jews are things that used to be ground or processed or stored in such a way that it was pretty much impossible for them to not get mixed with some stuff that was definitely not-for-Passover. (Like, back then, in that part of Europe, the usual way to eat beans was to grind them into a flour, using the same mill that may have just been used to grind wheat, so there was no way to get the beans without some wheat in them.) In Span and Italy and the middle East and North Africa, the food was processed differently, and there were different rabbis considering the question, so Jews from there will eat rice and beans and corn on Passover.

(For most non-Passover questions of kashrut, there isn't so much of an issue, because for what mammals and fish you can eat, it describes specific physical characteristics that the animal has to have, rather than naming specific ones, so if you get to a new continent and there are some new animals wandering around, you'd just got to look at their feet and their stomachs and figure out if they fit the rules or not. So bison are kosher, deer are not.)


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2008 3:08:43 pm PDT #8996 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cool bike. They need to make a robotic one.


tommyrot - Apr 02, 2008 3:38:40 pm PDT #8997 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I just had a huge banana split. I feel like a python that's just swallowed a pig - like I need to just lay about digesting for a week or two....


Jesse - Apr 02, 2008 3:40:39 pm PDT #8998 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ooh, that sounds good! I had a well-balanced dinner, in stages, that ended up being one thing too many:

1) small bowl of chili
2) small tortilla with cheese
3) brocolli with ranch dressing
4) thin mints


Nutty - Apr 02, 2008 3:44:21 pm PDT #8999 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

"I have studied and studied and I see nothing in the Torah about corn.

I like the part (explained to me only recently) where, because meat and milk aren't to be eaten together, and meat is the main course of a meal, and chicken is also a main course, to be on the safe side you should not have chicken with milk. Even though chickens are not mammals and thus could not be said to be cooked "in its mother's milk."

I like that somebody sat down (eons ago) and had to think that through. It pleases me, the same way that discussions about whether mittens count as gloves, and vice versa, please me.


tommyrot - Apr 02, 2008 3:52:13 pm PDT #9000 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I've just been brushing my cat for ten or fifteen minutes straight. There is nothing she loves as much as being brushed. Which is good, as being a long-haired cat, she needs to be brushed regularly.

Sometimes I ask her why she has so much fur. "You can't possible need that much fur," I tell her. She just looks at me like the question's absurd.


sarameg - Apr 02, 2008 3:56:01 pm PDT #9001 of 10001

When I was little, I was utterly aghast that my friends' jewish grandmother had never eaten a cheeseburger! Oh, and how she disapproved that they had. (They lazily kept kosher. During holy days, they definitely did. The rest of the time? Hit or miss.)

I remember when they were off in Mexico on sabbatical, we'd eat at her apartment (attached to their house) once a week, and she'd put on a whole proper multicourse meal. Changing tablecloths, using different ovens, etc. I loved her matzoball soup. I'm pretty sure she explained why she did everything with a good dose of religious education, but I was young enough, I sadly don't recall a lot of it. She was so very proper, could be a bit of a pill, but her heart was huge.

Huh, I haven't thought about those dinners in years.


sarameg - Apr 02, 2008 3:58:29 pm PDT #9002 of 10001

She just looks at me like the question's absurd.

Well, duh. It is. It gets her more brushing.

It's always seemed to me that long-haired cats are the preeniest. I mean, most cats preen like there is no tomorrow, but longhair cats the most. Or maybe I've just had a lot of longhaired diva-cats.


sarameg - Apr 02, 2008 4:26:33 pm PDT #9003 of 10001

So I'm watching a PBS thing on caring for your parents. And maybe I shouldn't. Because I'm really not ready to face this, but it is in the back of my head in the past few years. I mean, they are fine now. But dad's talk of retirement, mom's physical limits... it's coming. And I know they have very strong views about kids being primary caregivers, having done that themselves. But ... there are so many variable.

So it is scary. But it will come and we will manage.