But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


Natter 57 Varieties  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jars - Apr 02, 2008 12:13:02 pm PDT #8979 of 10001

I'm not particularly good at New World stuff, but emmer and einkorn wheats, barley, lentils, peas, vetch and chickpeas are the first crops in the Near East, as near as we can tell, and they moved through Europe, excepting chickpeas, weirdly. Rye and spelt came later, but not much. There's still controversy over which was first and whether cultivation began once for each species, or a number of times in different areas.

I'm not up to speed on Asian cultivation, but I think rice began to be cultivated about the same time, and people are starting to talk about bananas too.


tommyrot - Apr 02, 2008 12:21:43 pm PDT #8980 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Years ago I read the theory that cultivation began so folks would have a ready supply of the ingredients for beer. Is that theory still... around?


Hil R. - Apr 02, 2008 12:23:14 pm PDT #8981 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Speaking of grains, I saw a package at the grocery store a few days ago labeled "Kosher for Passover only for those who eat kitniyot." (Kitniyot being beans, rice, corn, and a few other things not expressly forbidden, but not eaten for Passover by most Eastern European Jews.) I'm glad to see the Ashkenazic Passover monopoly fading a bit, even if it is only for peanut butter Bamba.


Sheryl - Apr 02, 2008 12:23:36 pm PDT #8982 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Mmmm, vanilla. (Sorry, I've got nothing else)


Cashmere - Apr 02, 2008 12:24:29 pm PDT #8983 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Veganomicon

Damn, I want that just for the name. And I'm not even a vegetarian!

My friend in Cleveland bought that cookbook. She is a vegetarian, though. Her license plates also say, "Cthulhu." Really. Deb got a HUGE kick out them.


Jars - Apr 02, 2008 12:36:07 pm PDT #8984 of 10001

Years ago I read the theory that cultivation began so folks would have a ready supply of the ingredients for beer. Is that theory still... around?

Um, sort of. I think the general consensus is that some form of cultivation (or at least management of wild resources) has to occur before brewing can happen, as the most likely way that spontaneous fermentation would occur is when storing crops. Proper beer needs a prior knowledge of malting, also, which again probably wouldn't be seen except in crop storage.

There's an increase in the growing of fruit crops that coincides with the beginning of centralised settlement which has been proposed as indicative of the beginnings of alcohol production.

This is fun. It's been ages since I've had to think about anything outside of Irish archaeobotany.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2008 12:57:57 pm PDT #8985 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is fun.

We exist to serve.

Ma Cherie Amour. Stuck in my head. Off to a meeting. Spork me now, dog, spork me now.


Allyson - Apr 02, 2008 1:12:20 pm PDT #8986 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Oh crap. Tell me I'm smart! Quick! I think I have that Simpson's gene and I'm getting dumber!


Jesse - Apr 02, 2008 1:19:55 pm PDT #8987 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You're smart! Smaht, even.


Lee - Apr 02, 2008 1:23:44 pm PDT #8988 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Wicked Smart!