River: I know you have questions. Mal: That would be why I just asked them.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 57 Varieties  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Mar 31, 2008 8:51:25 pm PDT #8555 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

just knowing that every channel change will be precise is tremendous comfort. Then! Dual tuners!

What does this mean? We are seriously considering it. I read Hil's experience, anyone else think there's reason that these boxes will last less than five years? Are they easy to set up for ignormami?


Kristen - Mar 31, 2008 8:52:20 pm PDT #8556 of 10001

HA! I went back and deleted my *ahem* strong language because, well, you know. But seriously, man. Be glad you missed it.

Also, which local paper was it? I'm curious to see if they had an issue with one of my biggest issues.

ETA: For those just joining us, this is re: the Lifetime Green River miniseries.


Shir - Mar 31, 2008 8:53:42 pm PDT #8557 of 10001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Thanks aurelia!


P.M. Marc - Mar 31, 2008 9:04:19 pm PDT #8558 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Kristen, I think it was the Times, but it could have been the PI.

The big issue they had was the pulled from their asses, not from the headlines, victim. Who haunts our stern and sad police hero Dave. Or something.


Kristen - Mar 31, 2008 9:20:49 pm PDT #8559 of 10001

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. That was my biggest issue also. And related to that issue, the fauxictim is this fresh-faced, pretty, white kewpie doll. It's like the message you take away from that is, wow, clearly, these women were unimportant because someone felt the need to invent a better victim just to make the audience care. The whole thing seemed white-washed (and I actually do mean race) for Lifetime, while at the same time feeling incredibly exploitative and salacious.

Bah. I need to cleanse my brain now.


Shir - Mar 31, 2008 9:25:22 pm PDT #8560 of 10001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Now I feel like I miss a very interesting conversation.

Must read Natter faster.


P.M. Marc - Mar 31, 2008 9:36:20 pm PDT #8561 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, my head would have exploded. I mean, I have a lot of rage at the way the media covers victims who were possible or probable sex workers and the ways in which they're dehumanized in reporting to start with. So I think, yes. Boom.


meara - Mar 31, 2008 9:44:12 pm PDT #8562 of 10001

ahhh! April Fools Day has infected my websites! I went to look at comics and they were ALL WRONG!


Kristen - Mar 31, 2008 9:49:53 pm PDT #8563 of 10001

I kinda went close to boom myself. You know something's bad when I consider the highlight to be the 27 seconds that James Marsters was on screen as Ted Bundy. I mean, seriously.

I think I should stick to documentaries and news programs. These not-so-true-crime movies are pissing me off on a regular basis. I suppose they're geared towards people who don't know much about the actual cases. Said people are less likely to get irritated by the liberties they take.

Like, phone calls that never happened. Fuckers.


Theodosia - Apr 01, 2008 12:47:03 am PDT #8564 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

One of the hallmarks of seriously good true crime reporting is respecting the victims in the narrative, and remembering that it's their deaths that are the true reason for the story, not merely an oh-so-fascinating serial killer, and paying due respect to the detectives who work on these cases for literally their whole careers. Hollywoodizing a true story in the fashion described is a bit on the obscene side. FEH.

I've been more or less awake since 2:30 AM -- not even the Sonata sleeping pill I took around 3:30 has done me much good. Thank goodness I only have one class today....