Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe? Zoe: Had a kind poetry to it, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


hippocampus - Mar 26, 2008 3:26:24 pm PDT #7450 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

last week: "why am I getting these emails?" "it's receipting - the company has decided to go down to one email per account, and you, big boss, are the account holder." "Please look into sending them to somewhere where all of my department can get them" ::not my job.:: ::soooo not my job:::

later last week: ::ok fine.:: ::1 hour on hold with account services because main account email cannot be changed online. much bitching and moaning::

today: "the emails will now go to universalxaddress@xxxx.com, on your request." "kthanksgreatjobbye" ::@@::

later today: 'why are we getting these emails?' "because your boss requested it." 'we don't want them - send them to [temp admin-assistant] and she'll stick them in a folder, k? ::so not my job. so not your job to decide that you'll be missing some important email about account service discontinuation or something:: feh. leaving... 3 months, 5 days - and counting. I wonder who will remember where that email address was when I'm gone...

but the question for the hivemind is this:

- I need to get bigboss to ok or quash any change to the email... and I am NOT going to have the vendor shift it to a single-named email again, nor do I want to do this again - it is a huge waste of everyone's time. but all I have is the email from 3 of her staff that says "we don't want to receive these" after she asked for them to do so. Do I reply to middle-manager 1 and suggest that bigboss needs pulled into conversation in order to ok any change (and set out the reasons why)? Do I resist my urge to cc: bigboss on the "we don't care" and "sorry to be a pain" emails? help, hivemind - you'll know what to do.


javachik - Mar 26, 2008 3:39:44 pm PDT #7451 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I would cc bigboss.

And also, why don't they have a group distrib list, or a separate e-mail account bucket (and someone responsible for checking it) for these purposes.

Get a clue, stoooopid people who upset Sox.


Jesse - Mar 26, 2008 3:42:38 pm PDT #7452 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My only advice is not to send any "sorry to be a pain" emails. Just say what you need whoever to do, and leave it at that.

Not saying sorry is the biggest thing I'm taking away from this ridonk professional development thing I've been doing, and I do think it makes me seem more powerful or whatever.


beekaytee - Mar 26, 2008 3:46:36 pm PDT #7453 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Not saying sorry is the biggest thing I'm taking away from this ridonk professional development thing I've been doing, and I do think it makes me seem more powerful or whatever.

So. Very. This.

The whole "sorry" thing (unless, of course you threw a bleach-filled water balloon into the person's office for 'fun') just screams an invitation to disrespect.

I'm not sure I'd cc the angsty emails. I would, however, create a document with the progression of events and a plan for fixing the problem.

Much more likely to get the 'you saved me so much hassle, go ahead and do it' response from the bigboss.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2008 4:51:38 pm PDT #7454 of 10001

I've got Dylan's Forever Young sung by Baez in my head. I know why. It is a wish unrealized for scrappy's niece. Isn't entirely appropriate, but it is what visits me. And damnit, my ipod needs charging.

I get cc'd on so freaking much that my inbox is currently 1000+ and I still haven't dealt with monday's email. Crap.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2008 5:24:59 pm PDT #7455 of 10001

Oookhay, sign I need to go to bed (my ipod charged) : Ellas Danzan Solas is making me alternately sob and rage (and my spanish is weak, so I'm probably getting 75%.)


§ ita § - Mar 26, 2008 5:27:51 pm PDT #7456 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That song is a hell of a tearjerker. Sleep well, sara.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2008 5:38:00 pm PDT #7457 of 10001

I wish I'd take my own advice and go sleep. Yeah, it's a killer.

My personal childhood musical library ( mentally, anyway) is full of stuff like this. I thank my parents for their protest history, but man, heavy stuff I grew up on. The tribute to my parents is that it still guts me.


§ ita § - Mar 26, 2008 5:44:21 pm PDT #7458 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Me too, sara. Although that song was one I came to on my own. They had stopped feeding me by then, but I was weaned on civil rights violations across the world. It made for an oddly skittish childhood.

I can't recall the taste of matcha, so I can't work out if these are appetising. The colour's certainly...special.

Tommy, I'm still hunting through SPICE apps. It looks to be all hard core and high powered and perhaps way (okay, definitely way) over my head. I want something in the YA range of home electronics.


sarameg - Mar 26, 2008 5:51:32 pm PDT #7459 of 10001

Joan Baez , via my parents was largely (but not soley, those sneaky quakers and their freaky social conscience) my exposure. And she does a lot of that stuff. Shit, I now need to get the albums I don't have. Like the Tiannamen one. Anyway.

Back in the late sixties when she was still playing coffeehouses and not famous, dad sat with her post-gig and talked in Boston.

Almost a decade ago, I went up to Philly to her concert. It was pretty informal, but I was too shy to go up and say "Hey, you met my dad back in the 60s and I grew up on you." Oh well.