I like money better than people. People can so rarely be exchanged for goods and/or services!

Willow ,'Showtime'


Natter 57 Varieties  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Mar 20, 2008 7:41:30 am PDT #6177 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This guy being a dick has nothing to do with the economics of the credit crunch.

It sounds like he was fined for being a dick during his deposition, not because they blame him for the credit crunch.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 20, 2008 7:41:49 am PDT #6178 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Can anyone explain to me why the water supply is a public utility and the electric and gas lines are private companies, even though they essentially have a regional monopoly? I mean, I can't choose which provider to use for my electricity, and they maintain the lines. Which, okay, but why aren't they a public utility and water is?

Probably the work of the same logic wizards who have the trains in this country be a public entity while the tracks are privately owned.


Fred Pete - Mar 20, 2008 7:41:57 am PDT #6179 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

bon bon, I'll agree you have a point but think "rubbish" is a bit strong. It isn't so much that the guy was a dick (though if anything, that's a mild way of putting it). It's that he seemed to consider himself above the rules -- a relative of "the old rules no longer apply" attitude that governed during the boom times.

And based on what was said in the Legal Intelligence article, I have to admire opposing counsel for keeping cool in such a trying situation.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 20, 2008 7:43:43 am PDT #6180 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I do think being a dick might have been connected to him being a CEO. You don't generally get that kind of job by being a nice guy (I know there are exceptions).


tommyrot - Mar 20, 2008 7:49:51 am PDT #6181 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Allyson, check this out: brenda m "Natter 57 Varieties" Mar 20, 2008 6:17:52 am PDT


bon bon - Mar 20, 2008 7:50:29 am PDT #6182 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

bon bon, I'll agree you have a point but think "rubbish" is a bit strong. It isn't so much that the guy was a dick (though if anything, that's a mild way of putting it). It's that he seemed to consider himself above the rules -- a relative of "the old rules no longer apply" attitude that governed during the boom times.

Well, the credit crunch is caused by the actions of hundreds of people in the market, of which I can state with confidence, do not act like this guy. Sort of the most ridic ad hominem I've ever seen. In general, I think any argument that relies on everyone involved being mendacious or dumb has extremely poor explanatory power.

ETA: I also really don't agree that it had something to do with the old rules not applying, which is a narrative that has dominated in the past ten years or so that moralizes people in the market taking risks. There's no moral here. The capital markets are about taking risks. One time in a hundred, the risk will have a catastrophic effect. It happens. It doesn't mean the people who do it are stupid or evil.

wish I understood this better. It's freaking me out, and I have no idea what it all is, and how it rights itself. Every time I try and figure it out, my eyes glaze over from financial jargon.

Don't feel bad. I can't explain it to Bob Bob, and he has an econ degree and his father is a professor of finance.

As far as the water vs. electricity/gas, I assume it is because water is a resource controlled by the government, and electricity and gas are privately generated resources.


Nutty - Mar 20, 2008 7:50:45 am PDT #6183 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Can anyone explain to me why the water supply is a public utility and the electric and gas lines are private companies, even though they essentially have a regional monopoly?

I blame Reagan.

(Anyway, up here, electric and gas are so heavily regulated they're quasi-public entities anyway.)


Rick - Mar 20, 2008 8:03:12 am PDT #6184 of 10001

I went to Yahoo News to check on the basketball scores and noticed that one of the headlines is about one of my studies. Not that the description has much to do with the study, which was a mathematical model of social perception:

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Strega - Mar 20, 2008 8:11:22 am PDT #6185 of 10001

They have the most amazing 72-Layer Hand-Cut Cream Cheese Biscuits

Guh.... Oo, and they carry them at Whole Foods, apparently. Hm. I might have to go on a quest.

This weekend I need to get a spazzy friend to make firm plans, color my hair, clean clean clean, get groceries, do TWoP stuff, and wash many loads of laundry. And then on Sunday I'll be at my brother's for half the day. So it seems like Saturday's going to suck.

Especially since I have a game I want to spend hours playing but I guess I can't do that. Wah.


flea - Mar 20, 2008 8:14:52 am PDT #6186 of 10001
information libertarian

So, Rick, you've outed yourself as Correen Farris?