River: You're not right, Early. You're not righteous. You've got issues. Early: No. Oh, yes, I could have that. You might have me figured out, then. Good job. I'm not 100%.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 57 Varieties  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Mar 18, 2008 8:43:21 am PDT #5704 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

You don't want me to get started on the whole "stimulus" thing. It probably costs millions to send out the checks, and it's all funny money anyway, since we're into deficit spending on a grand scale. All the government has to do to get more money into the economy is to spend it: buy supplies for teachers, increase the food stamp program, reconstitute the CCC to work on our crumbling parks and infrastructure.

I'm with you, Susan. I'm always irritated when speakers conflate the Puritans, who busily persecuted other people looking for religious freedom, with the people who formed the revolution and wrote the Constitution. The far right is always talking about going back to the values of the founders. Do they mean the Puritan theocracy or do they mean people like Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, Adams and Hancock, whose religions were Deist, Deist, atheist, Unitarian and money.


Steph L. - Mar 18, 2008 8:43:34 am PDT #5705 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I am so stoked that the next president of the US (you know, I think he'll win) actually has a command of the English language.

I completely understand *why* there can be racist connotations to saying that Obama is articulate, but whenever I've said that, I swear that I only meant that he's articulate compared to the drooling slack-jawed yokel currently in the White House.

Seriously, all partisianship aside, have we ever had a president with such a complete lack of understanding of the English language?

I'm pretty sure no.

Are republicans/conservatives embarassed by it? I'm not talking about the 30% wingnutters, just regular conservatives.

They have to be. Right? But probably won't admit it.


megan walker - Mar 18, 2008 8:48:54 am PDT #5706 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I loved Obama's speech, and y'all know I'm a supporter, but I have to admit that lines like this in anyone's campaign speech make me roll my eyes a little:

It's things like this that get my eyes rolling:

I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.


erikaj - Mar 18, 2008 8:49:10 am PDT #5707 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I've heard Eisenhower was close. But they edited him a lot, so people wouldn't know.


Susan W. - Mar 18, 2008 8:51:07 am PDT #5708 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Do they mean the Puritan theocracy or do they mean people like Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, Adams and Hancock, whose religions were Deist, Deist, atheist, Unitarian and money.

From what I've read of that crowd? Puritan theocracy, in some cases explicitly so. Ugh.


lisah - Mar 18, 2008 8:52:56 am PDT #5709 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Do they mean the Puritan theocracy or do they mean people like Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, Adams and Hancock, whose religions were Deist, Deist, atheist, Unitarian and money.

Kind of off the point but Hancock will now always be John HOTcock in my mind now that Justin Theroux has played him.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2008 8:56:40 am PDT #5710 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I only meant that he's articulate compared to the drooling slack-jawed yokel currently in the White House.

OMG, I just realized Shrub isn't the POTUS, he's the CLETUS.

The fact that he's a faux-yokel makes it worse.


Ginger - Mar 18, 2008 8:57:05 am PDT #5711 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I agree that that crowd seems to yearn for a theocracy in which everything that is not compulsory is forbidden, but they say they're talking about the Constitution. I think it's rather remarkably self-centered to believe that it's going to be your religion that's running the show in a theocracy. In Massachusetts, most of them would be in the stocks.


brenda m - Mar 18, 2008 8:58:44 am PDT #5712 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Heh. A senior person in the firm just sent out a letter announcing his imminent departure that begins thusly:

Dear Colleagues,

I am sick of you all.


shrift - Mar 18, 2008 8:59:34 am PDT #5713 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

John HOTcock

It's terribly unfair of you to put that in my brain. I'm going to slip and say that at a VERY inopportune moment, I can already tell.