I think the saving grace for me may be if the sci-fi is limted to near future Mission Impossible espionage type stuff rather than interplanetary spaceships/lifelike robots/mid-orgasm time-stopping machines. If it only involves gadgetry and concepts that I would buy in the hands of Sydney Bristow or Ilya Kuryakin, I can suspend my disbelief.
My love for me now / Ain't hard to explain / The Hero of Canton / The man they call...ME.
Jayne ,'Jaynestown'
The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!
Matt the Bruins fan - May 07, 2008 9:54:02 am PDT #592 of 4535
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
§ ita § - May 07, 2008 10:00:15 am PDT #593 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
See, I don't prefer that near-tech, myself. I find a miss is easier to spot when you're aiming so close to reality.
JenP - May 07, 2008 11:37:17 am PDT #594 of 4535
I dunno why, I see massive and LJ and my mind went straight to DISagreement rather than what you wrote. Sorry for the misreading.
I'm surprised I read it the right way.
Kat reminds me that I never saw the last few eps of Alias. Have to Netflix.
I'll tune in for Dollhouse, and then I'll see. I'm not having any pre-show fannish glee, though. Perhaps I'm just lazy these days.
Kevin - May 07, 2008 12:05:16 pm PDT #595 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Fox.com have a bit on the supposed change: [link]
Laga - May 07, 2008 4:26:47 pm PDT #596 of 4535
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I wasn't a Buffy/Angel watcher when Firefly premiered so this is my first opportunity to come to a new Whedon show as a fan. I don't see this premise as more exploitave than 90% of anything to be found on the US airwaves these days but the fact that Joss is creating it gives me hope that it will transcend my imaginings.
sj - May 07, 2008 5:29:01 pm PDT #597 of 4535
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I have very little doubt that I will enjoy "Dollhouse" based on the fact that I have never not enjoyed a Joss show in the past. Although, I definitely see the ick in the premise; I'm hopeful it's going to be more about overcoming an awful situation.
libkitty - May 07, 2008 6:01:40 pm PDT #598 of 4535
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
I guess I'm not much of a "In-Joss-We-Trust" viewer.
The concept behind Dollhouse definitely squicks me, but I'm an In-Joss-We-Wait-And-See viewer. I haven't really liked the premise of any of his or Tim's shows ahead of time, but for me they've pretty much ranked between good and outstanding once realized. Because of this track record, I'll start watching pretty much any show either of them does. If I don't hate it, I'll give it at least a few eps to see how it develops. After that, it's up to the work to convince me to keep going.
Typo Boy - May 07, 2008 6:36:31 pm PDT #599 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
libkitty:
...but I'm an In-Joss-We-Wait-And-See viewer. I haven't really liked the premise of any of his or Tim's shows ahead of time, but for me they've pretty much ranked between good and outstanding once realized. Because of this track record, I'll start watching pretty much any show either of them does. If I don't hate it, I'll give it at least a few eps to see how it develops. After that, it's up to the work to convince me to keep going.
This.
Tamara - May 07, 2008 8:51:35 pm PDT #600 of 4535
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Isn't that the approach anyone would take on any show by a creator that had a former show you liked.
I liked Alias and Lost so I am looking forward to see what JJ does with Fringe.
I liked Cupid and Veronica Mars so I will watch several episodes of whatever Rob Thomas puts out there.
I love BSG so Virtuality has me for at least 6 eps.
I mean, does early (possibly mistaken) perceptions on subject matter turn people off to the point of not even giving it a shot even if the creator has made enjoyable stuff in the past? I can't quite comprehend that.
Kristen - May 07, 2008 9:05:48 pm PDT #601 of 4535
I'm willing to give the show a chance. I'm very open to a wide variety of "entertainment" options. After all, I still watch CSI: Miami.
But I will give Dollhouse super mondo bonus points if they don't do any episodes involving a strike or featuring a picket line because, OMIGOD, TV writers, stop it already.