Willow: It feels like we're going around in circles. Xander: Our circles are going around in circles. We got dizzy circles here.

'Sleeper'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Tom Scola - Apr 30, 2008 7:20:07 am PDT #531 of 4535
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

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At first glance, Gossip Girl is just another tawdry teen dramadey, but take a look at the show's viewership -- or more precisely, how it's viewed -- and you'll see that the CW's underdog is a shape of things to come.

While its ratings are mediocre at best, the show has cultivated a huge following online. Now, in a misguided effort to pump up traditional viewership numbers, the network has decided to stop streaming Gossip Girl.

The studios are stuck in the mindset that advertisers are still their customers, not the viewers.


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2008 7:22:47 am PDT #532 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I feel like Gossip Girls should have been my OC replacement and I missed the wagon. Sad, because since falling out of love with GA I have nothing even slightly in that genre.

Are the networks not making money off of advertisers online? It's certainly harder for me to avoid what they tack on.


Typo Boy - Apr 30, 2008 7:28:21 am PDT #533 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well, advertisers are where the networks make their money. And advertising online is not nearly as profitable as on the tube. I don't think it is due to lack of effectiveness. (Although I've seen arguments that people can tune out online advertisements more easily than TV ads.) But the main problem is that you can measure how many people look at an on-line ad, but not how many people wonder out to the restroom during a TV ad. So comparing on-line ads to TV ads compares fairly hard numbers to optimistic guesses. That lets a broadcast or cable station charge a lot more per effective eyeball than an on-line webcaster.


sumi - Apr 30, 2008 7:29:43 am PDT #534 of 4535
Art Crawl!!!

I've watched a couple of Gossip Girls now - and I don't love it the way I loved the OC but it's okay. (It lacks the humor.) But I can totally see what you mean, ita - it's like a humorless East Coast version of the show. No Seth!


le nubian - Apr 30, 2008 7:38:33 am PDT #535 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I couldn't get through the first ep. I am predisposed toward dramas set in high school/young adults and this one made me gag.


Allyson - Apr 30, 2008 7:50:01 am PDT #536 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

They're just going to have to do more product placement and make way more entertaining ads.

Or, you know, no more teevee.


Invisible Green - Apr 30, 2008 8:01:41 am PDT #537 of 4535

They're just going to have to do more product placement and make way more entertaining ads.

Yeah, maybe everyone'll suddenly start wearing Levi's jean jackets, like on Roswell.


Gris - Apr 30, 2008 9:57:56 am PDT #538 of 4535
Hey. New board.

GG already had basically an entire episode sponsored by Victoria's Secret.

It totally has humor. It's just a little less centered in one character, and is a bit darker.

The streaming thing is interesting. I wonder how it's ratings did on Monday. I haven't checked yet.

le nubian... well, if you really hated the first ep, I doubt you'll love anything else. But it has been, so far, the worst episode.


Jon B. - Apr 30, 2008 10:02:00 am PDT #539 of 4535
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

This week's episode was pretty weak, IMO. FAQWife & I have enjoyed GG in general, though. I agree with Gris, that the show does have it's dark humor.

Also, it's still on iTunes, so it's not like the CW is completely divorcing new media.


Kevin - Apr 30, 2008 10:34:21 am PDT #540 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

And advertising online is not nearly as profitable as on the tube.

I just read a news report saying online advertising for the first time is now more profitable than traditional advertising. It really depends who you ask.

I think the argument here will be that streaming isn't free of expenses for networks. I'm guessing.

I can see exactly why the Jericho fans are sending nuts again - it provided the network with an excuse/reason to make another series last time. Gotta give them credit for targeting Variety, too.