Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.
Mal ,'Safe'
The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!
victor infante - Apr 18, 2008 11:22:56 am PDT #484 of 4535
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Kristen - Apr 18, 2008 11:26:26 am PDT #485 of 4535
Not too terribly long ago, you'd be left bleeding behind a 7-11 for working during a strike. Or at least kicked out of the union.
They resigned from the union, as is legally allowed. And, from the wording of the letter, it seems not all of them worked during the strike.
Sean K - Apr 18, 2008 11:28:52 am PDT #486 of 4535
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
They resigned from the union, as is legally allowed. And, from the wording of the letter, it seems not all of them worked during the strike.
This is what is pinging me as uncool.
They're not being blacklisted for explicitly working during the strike. They are being blacklisted for refusing to participate.
I'm pretty pro-union, but this bothers me. Suffice to say violence toward persons or property for strikebreaking is also unacceptable to me.
Invisible Green - Apr 18, 2008 11:29:51 am PDT #487 of 4535
It seems the blacklist is alive and well.
John Ridley's the only name on that this I recognize, and I'd expect he's proud to be on that list. I don't think he's done any TV recently, anyway. He's still got novels, comic books, and NPR.
libkitty - Apr 18, 2008 7:25:46 pm PDT #488 of 4535
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Is this normally public information, just made more visible, or is it normally confidential? For union action to work, it seems harsh but reasonable to let people know about people who broke the strike. I don't know enough about the way this system works to know if financial core=broke the strike or not.
eta: It seems more stand up and be counted than blacklist, to me. I mean, aren't blacklists usually a little more covert? And wouldn't any potential employer learn this in the hiring process anyway? Or maybe I'm being hopelessly naive.
Kristen - Apr 18, 2008 7:28:10 pm PDT #489 of 4535
My understanding is that, until now, the Guild never commented on which members had resigned from the union.
libkitty - Apr 18, 2008 7:38:10 pm PDT #490 of 4535
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
I have no issues with anyone as long as they didn't work as a writer during the strike. If they did cross the lines, even metaphorically, I would have thought that they would expect repercussions like this. If they didn't, this does seem unfair.
Theresa - Apr 19, 2008 12:26:27 pm PDT #491 of 4535
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
It seems the blacklist is alive and well. Only this time, we've written it ourselves.
Wow. Or maybe someone just has a thorn in his paw about day time soap writers which accounts for most of the list. Maybe it is fair, it just seems weird that all but about four names on that are/were soap writers. Two names left their shows during the strike, but because they went fi core, are they in the same group? The list is probably fair in that it is factual, but should this be the short list of people who are pelted with vegetables? IDK
It seems more stand up and be counted than blacklist, to me. I mean, aren't blacklists usually a little more covert? And wouldn't any potential employer learn this in the hiring process anyway? Or maybe I'm being hopelessly naive.
I think of a blacklist as something negative that is done to someone else for (justice, vengence, retribution) whatever, while stand up and be counted is usually voluntary and within control of the person whose name is being published. The whole thing is strange so I don't know if there is a right and wrong.
libkitty - Apr 19, 2008 7:31:40 pm PDT #492 of 4535
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
I see your point, Austin. Huh.
DavidS - Apr 19, 2008 8:11:39 pm PDT #493 of 4535
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
The whole thing is strange so I don't know if there is a right and wrong.
Have you ever been around a union or union action? Have you seen how the dynamics work?
Unions enforce their lines.
We don't like to think of it that way, but we have lunch time because assholes with the Pinkertons busted Unions and the Unions had to bust back. As Victor notes, this is nothing really. A bunch of soap opera writers sold out the unions who guaranteed their healthcare and now they get called out for it.