Gimme some milk.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


-t - Dec 08, 2013 6:05:08 am PST #4243 of 4535
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Good choice!

Speaking of Nikita - whew! Sort of.


sj - Dec 08, 2013 6:39:18 am PST #4244 of 4535
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Speaking of Nikita - whew! Sort of.

Yes!


Typo Boy - Dec 09, 2013 9:31:36 pm PST #4245 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

So far the permanent death toll is amazingly low for this show. My guess is that almost everyone dies the real death in the finale.


Amy - Dec 11, 2013 6:40:40 pm PST #4246 of 4535
Because books.

AHS: The LaLaurie storyline was a mistake. Delphine LaLaurie was a true monster, and she's not much more than comic relief now. And she's been magically shown the error of her ways by listening to gospel for a little while? That's insulting.

"I put a lot of effort into the key lime pie." LOVE. Myrtle is so insane, I adore her. Although, what did she do with the body parts? And where did she go? She just disappeared from the episode.

Why did Kyle kill the dog? Or was it a Lennie/Of Mice and Men thing?

I don't get the point of the Patti Lupone thread, unless she's going to be some huge vengeful fireball at the end? (Or maybe a witch herself?)

Hank's still alive next week so ... Queenie is, too? I had assumed they were both dead at the end of that scene?

Also, I love Misty.


le nubian - Dec 11, 2013 9:21:21 pm PST #4247 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The LaLaurie storyline was a mistake.

God, you aren't wrong. Man.


Polter-Cow - Dec 11, 2013 10:27:38 pm PST #4248 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The LaLaurie storyline was a mistake. Delphine LaLaurie was a true monster, and she's not much more than comic relief now. And she's been magically shown the error of her ways by listening to gospel for a little while? That's insulting.

While a white dude blows away a bunch of black people, no less. I don't even know what I'm supposed to think of all that.

I don't get the point of the Patti Lupone thread, unless she's going to be some huge vengeful fireball at the end? (Or maybe a witch herself?)

Were we supposed to give a shit about Luke's dad? Why do we care that she gave him, um, bees? WHAT IS THE POINT OF HER CHARACTER.

So Cordelia has her sight back and Kyle is basically normal and magic fixes everything, okay.


-t - Dec 14, 2013 3:02:17 pm PST #4249 of 4535
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Nikita: whoa! Well played. Although I am sad about Ramon.


Typo Boy - Dec 14, 2013 3:12:38 pm PST #4250 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

What everyone said about witch-hunter hubbie blowing away a bunch of black people, and the uselessness of LaLuarie's story.

In terms of other comments: Kyle has gone from being out of control to being a useful slave/guard-dog . Cordelia has lost her power to have visions. So I'm not sure these are cases of "magic fixes everything." In fact I'm pretty sure both of these will bite people in the ass. Patti Lupone does seem pretty useless so far. Howver when Nan finds out Lupone has killed her boyfriend, she may develop a new useful power. I think we were supposed to care about murdering the Father, not for the Father's sake, but because it made boyfriend's life with his mother even more tragic - just before Mama murder's him. I agree that it does not work very well. I have gone along far enough that I will watch to the end.


Amy - Dec 14, 2013 3:20:00 pm PST #4251 of 4535
Because books.

While a white dude blows away a bunch of black people, no less. I don't even know what I'm supposed to think of all that.

I think the juxtaposition was purposeful, I just don't think it necessarily worked.

I feel like the season would have been tighter if it had looked strictly at female vs. male power, but at the same time it would have been less interesting -- it's not as if all women everywhere are united womanhood, and we all know it. But if you're going to do both, do it ... better? We've never even seen Marie interact with anyone outside the Salem witches for any length of time (aside from LaLaurie), and Hank, who was introduced as an element of the Salem witches' story. Marie's coven, or whatever, doesn't have a lot of purpose except to react to/antagonize Fiona's crew.

So far the Patti Lupone thing is another bad mother example, I guess? So far all the mothers of boys have been horrors -- her with the enemas and the Bible-thumping, and Kyle's mother with the incest. Hank's mother seems conspicuously absent.

But I don't know what they're saying about motherhood in general -- none of the girls' mothers are shining examples of maternal warmth, either.


Typo Boy - Dec 14, 2013 6:42:59 pm PST #4252 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I get the feeling that someone was trying to write about racial issues without the knowledge to handle it. Like talk to some actual Black people,dude or dudette.

One blown opportunity: Queenie. She was an obese Black girl, but in the first episode she mentioned being at the top of her class in math. And yeah, she was stuck in a shitty chicken shack, but was the manager. At like I think 16? And on the other hand she did not seem to get people very well. And I was like; cool. They are playing against stereotype. They have a fat black girl who is a book smart, and people and street dumb. A female geek who is not just a male geek fantasy.

And from then on, absolutely nothing showed her as being book smart. In this last episode she is picking films to educate LaLaurie about racism. And she picks the Roots series? Which is know for lousy history? And freaking Mandingo? I have no problem with her being pushed around like a chess piece by people like Fiona and LeVeau who are clearly master class manipulators and button pushers. But, in spite of occasional articulate outbursts of insight, Queenie seems stupid about everything. Which makes her a stupid fat black girl. In short a really awful and prevalent racial stereotype.

Or again LeVeau - much more of a stereotype than she needed to be. The historical LeVeau owned slaves. And her second husband was white. And she had tons of white followers. I'm not saying they need to be historically accurate. And even given the background, hundreds of years of disappointment every time it looked like things were going to get better could well have changed her attitude. But still, it seems like they are not making her particularly a complex character. Fiona gets to have contradictions, doing horrible things but still caring about her daughter, and maybe even (for selfish reasons while she is dying and no longer had a long term ftures) even about her coven. We have seen her do at least one random act of kindness. LeVeau seems to pretty much exist to get rich, and get the Salem witches. It takes being the sole survivor of a massacre to get her past that. She is not allowed the complexity and contractions of Fiona. Even LaLaurie is allowed more complexity than LaVeau is.