I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


-t - Oct 15, 2010 7:07:16 am PDT #2767 of 4535
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

She's there to know that the soil report is bs. Other than that, we'll see.

I vaguely remember Hank saying something about contacting the hospital when she first showed up, that she had been there voluntarily? Something about she wouldn't take her meds there but she would if he let her stay in his attic. I might be making that up.


Typo Boy - Oct 15, 2010 7:51:50 am PDT #2768 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Minor point: as a non-lawyer, I'm pretty sure than Lindus's death was legally homicide of some sort. If you kidnap someone and they die trying to escape, I'm pretty sure you are legally responsible for the death. Especially if they die while you are trying to recapture them.


Vortex - Oct 15, 2010 7:56:00 am PDT #2769 of 4535
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

If you kidnap someone and they die trying to escape, I'm pretty sure you are legally responsible for the death.

yes, technically it's felony murder. If someone dies during the commission of a felony, then the perpetrators of said felony can be charged with felony murder, even if the perpetrators had nothing to do with the death, or the death was an accident (i.e. a victim has a heart attack and dies during a robbery)

The question is whether they were really kidnapping him. Yes, they were taking him against his will, but he was trying to flee the jurisdiction at the time. I think that an argument could be made that it was not a kidnapping, but a citizen's arrest.

Now, it's not a good argument, but it can be made.


Typo Boy - Oct 15, 2010 8:00:16 am PDT #2770 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But once you take the kidnap victim to your home rather than a police station, doesn't "citizen's arrest" move from bad argument to argument the judge won't let you present to the jury?


Vortex - Oct 15, 2010 8:20:22 am PDT #2771 of 4535
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But once you take the kidnap victim to your home rather than a police station, doesn't "citizen's arrest" move from bad argument to argument the judge won't let you present to the jury?

yes, but an argument could be made that the injury changed things. Like I said, they're boned, but arguments could be made.


Cass - Oct 15, 2010 2:08:12 pm PDT #2772 of 4535
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

yes, technically it's felony murder.

Which is why it wigs me that we've got former San Diego cops technically murdering. I am trying to get repress it, honestly.

Still, apart from historical bad things, even I can't really see how they didn't take an obviously injured man in for medical attention. That? That is some willfully ignorance there and creeps it closer to something murderous for me. Guess it shows how far they are willing to go.

I still really like the show, but these are not really awesome people.

And they don't eat taquitos. That might be just a me thing though.


Liese S. - Oct 17, 2010 9:20:36 pm PDT #2773 of 4535
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

The good news is: I converted a Terriers fan! Toaster me!

The bad news is: I did it via facebook messages, and he posted on my wall, thus outing me, and the odds that weird fan types will see it and watch the show and be shocked, shocked I tell you, are fair to middlin.


Shir - Oct 18, 2010 12:00:23 am PDT #2774 of 4535
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I just posted a "people should watch Terriers" in a a reply for concert post which mentioned Donal Louge.

I just don't really want to face another canceled show.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 20, 2010 8:29:36 pm PDT #2775 of 4535
What is even happening?

I haven't yet seen Terriers, so I feel like I'm letting down the team, but right now, I'm watching Angel, "Billy" so I'm blaming it on the earth's gravitational pull, because suddenly, I'm just so much closer to the earth.


§ ita § - Oct 21, 2010 4:10:05 pm PDT #2776 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hank and Gretchen are great siblings. I love their interactions. And I have a feeling I shouldn't be typing this before the end of the episode.