Mercy is the mark of a great man. Guess I'm just a good man. Well, I'm all right.

Mal ,'Shindig'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Cashmere - Feb 17, 2009 6:45:14 pm PST #1807 of 4535
Now tagless for your comfort.

Maybe Joss was using the Rolling Stone article as an opportunity to kiss off the studios? He certinaly makes it sound like he's going to look to web based entertainment and wants to paint it as the next frontier for creativity, free from the constraints of studio executives.

He sounds defensive. But that's just my opinion.


Allyson - Feb 17, 2009 7:21:57 pm PST #1808 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I really don't know how much it blows because as far as I can tell that first episode had somebody else's fingerprints all over it.

But but...the network can give a note. Joss has to write it. The same way an editor gives you notes, and you work with it. You can take a note and write the shit out of it. Or, and this happens, if you really believe the note is ass, you can make a case for yourself, and sometimes the note goes away.

I'm seriously boggled that you want to go to bat for Fox.

If I think they're in the right, sure. Joss can be wrong. I'd rather have an awesome new Joss show to watch, believe me. I'd rather be dancing myself silly that Joss and Jane and Tim were all working together on really great television.

On this, I think they put up an assload of money. And then gave him an assload more to fix it. Really. Hand over fist.

I do think that in this case, FOX's mistake was buying it in the first place. Somewhere in Joss' noggin, there's a great show, I'm sure. This isn't. Initially, the network was stoked about Joss' great return to television, but it turned into a fantastic trip into the guac.

They care about money.

And this show isn't going to make any. Unless I'm on crack and it turns into a giant hit. Hey, I thought we could save Firefly with a fan campaign. I've hit the pipe before.

And frankly, nobody in Hollywood cares about handbiting.

There's handbiting, and then there's a flamethrower, a tanker full of kerosene, and 200 sacks of salt. Eventually, you'll run out of fertile land.


Kristen - Feb 17, 2009 7:33:37 pm PST #1809 of 4535

And frankly, nobody in Hollywood cares about handbiting.

I'd always been told that the industry runs on relationships.


Kristen - Feb 17, 2009 7:46:30 pm PST #1810 of 4535

In other, more awesome, news, I have finally gathered together all of the Strange World episodes on my DVR. There very well may be a one-woman watch and post coming to a thread near you soon.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2009 7:48:55 pm PST #1811 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I caught a bunch of them on Chiller a month back. I finally saw the season finale. That Tim Minear...


Kristen - Feb 17, 2009 7:51:13 pm PST #1812 of 4535

That's where I got all of the episodes. I love Chiller.

Once I'm done with Strange World, I'm going to start working my way through Millennium, which Allyson says is my kind of show.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2009 7:54:41 pm PST #1813 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm back and forth on Millenium. Sometimes it's just gross.

I watched the run of All Souls on Chiller, and it was a show sorely in need of an arc, but they did a really good job on the creepy.


Kristen - Feb 17, 2009 8:05:45 pm PST #1814 of 4535

I will be interested to see where it falls on my spectrum of gross acceptability.


Kristen - Feb 17, 2009 8:05:51 pm PST #1815 of 4535

aurelia - Feb 17, 2009 8:06:24 pm PST #1816 of 4535
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Dollhouse is #5 in iTunes top tv episodes. If that means anything.

The first two seasons of Millennium were better than X-Files, imho. Yes it was gross sometimes and way dark, but really focused. The third season was interesting but really not the same show.