Jayne: 'Cause I don't know these folks. Don't much care to. Mal: They're whores. Jayne: I'm in.

'Heart Of Gold'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


§ ita § - Feb 15, 2009 10:02:06 am PST #1711 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then I don't get your drunk parallel. Are you saying that drunks (imprints) should have the same right to refuse what they contracted to sober?


Polter-Cow - Feb 15, 2009 10:07:48 am PST #1712 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'll admit my parallel is faulty. Because I consider the imprints separate people, not intoxicated versions of the original people. They just happen to be in the same body.


le nubian - Feb 15, 2009 10:16:17 am PST #1713 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yes, the inhaler technique bothered me as well. I don't have asthma, but I know how an inhaler works and there were times Eliza didn't even really have it up to her mouth and she certainly didn't breath deeply.


victor infante - Feb 15, 2009 12:06:46 pm PST #1714 of 4535
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't want to come off as terribly negative about this show -- there's a lot of potential there, and I love the risky concept of the show. It's terribly brave, and I want, want, want it to succeed.


Connie Neil - Feb 15, 2009 12:52:39 pm PST #1715 of 4535
brillig

How did they get the imprint of someone who died? Did they get the imprint, and later the person died? I'm getting far too hung up on the implausible logistics of the Dollhouse. I'd think the Actives would end up with multiple personalities because of bits left over, because I can't accept they could record and erase repeatedly without bits being left over.

The thing with the refrigerator didn't strike me as being gender-oriented at all. I was just thinking, "I hope that poor actress isn't claustrophobic. I wonder if they're pumping air into the thing?"


§ ita § - Feb 15, 2009 12:59:49 pm PST #1716 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did they get the imprint, and later the person died?

I assume so, because it didn't seem they'd known she'd commited suicide.

The woman in the refrigerator will remind many comic book readers of Green Lantern finding his girlfriend killed and stuffed in a refrigerator, specifically, and generally it's used as a term to refer to the killing or depowering of female characters as nothing more than a plot device to get a reaction from the male character(s).

Women In Refrigerator list.


Connie Neil - Feb 15, 2009 1:12:04 pm PST #1717 of 4535
brillig

Huh, never heard of it before. I only think of people in fridges in a kids-locking-themselves-in way.


Stephanie - Feb 15, 2009 1:38:58 pm PST #1718 of 4535
Trust my rage

I only learned about the women-in-fridge thing here, although I think during Veronica Mars.

I totally missed any scars on Amy Acker's face, although I didn't watch the show in HD. Maybe that's why.

The thing I can't get beyond with this show is way would you want Echo as Miss Penn and not the real thing. I mean, if you have the money to pay for Echo, don't you have the money to pay for a real Miss Penn? And as was obvious in the show, the guy doubted her abilities exactly *because* she hadn't been doing this her whole life. And he was the one paying for her services!


le nubian - Feb 15, 2009 2:08:03 pm PST #1719 of 4535
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I can understand that under certain circumstances, (like if you are into something shady), you wouldn't want/couldn't get the real thing - so the next best thing is a programmed person I suppose.

It's like "Leverage" I guess.

But in this circumstance, he really could have gotten a real Miss Penn - and ask her not to speak to the authorities.


Stephanie - Feb 15, 2009 2:10:44 pm PST #1720 of 4535
Trust my rage

I like Leverage and I think they've done a good job of choosing set-ups where it makes sense. I guess I just wouldn't trust my daughter's life to some chick who was dancing the night away in the shortest dress ever created the night before.