'Serenity'
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!
Is it true that some contracts are inherently null and void because the legal system considers them to be too outrageous and exploitative?
Yes. This would be a good example of a contract that is unconscionable by nature, and therefore cannot be enforced. Also, contracts for personal services cannot be enforced. You can be penalized for breach, but you can't require them to be performed.
Is it true that some contracts are inherently null and void because the legal system considers them to be too outrageous and exploitative? Which might invalidate any agreement made by the Actives and open up things like unlawful imprisonment
yes, like surrogacy contracts.
As I think about it, it might be a consent issue. it's like if you agree to be tied up for consensual sex, but your partner does something you don't like, you can withdraw your consent. The mindwipe makes them unable to withdraw their consent.
same reason that people sign surrogacy contracts. it's not legal, but it makes you feel better. Although, I'm not sure why what they're doing is illegal. It's not even prostitution, since they client isn't specifically paying for sex.
Well, from the first contract, it looked like some of the contracts are for sex. But more to the point, we appear to be talking permanent brain damage. I'm no lawyer, but that does not sound like something you can give permission for, especially when the reasons are non-medical. We have internal conversations at the beginning where the geek-in-charge-of-brainwashing and Mr. security were discussing how they were really great humanitarians, but if they were caught they'd go to jail for a long long time. From the promo for the next ep, it sounds like runaway actives are brought back by force. Which even if you agree to it in advance is kidnapping. Not a right you can give an employer.
Nice to see Reed Diamond
Has he got a portrait in his attic or something? I feel like he's been on my tv for way more years than show on his face.
I didn't make it through the ep. I think I might be breaking up with teevee. At the very least, I want to try seeing other people.
Was anyone else squicked by the Summer/Eliza promos? They were just creepy and seemed designed to tingle the boy geek sensibilities (i.e. Eliza with with her leather clad leg propped up on the chair)
Oh God yes. "Look at us hot girls! Be our dates every Friday night!" Ick.
There was all sorts of preemptive squick in this thread when the show was first talked about, and I didn't really get the visceral reaction. Seeing the actual show, however, I get the squick. It's uncomfortable to watch, but it's not not supposed to be. I'm intrigued by most of the goings-on.
I didn't get the point of the boxing scene either. I just figured Agent Helo had watched "Unfinished Business" way too many times.
And, yeah, I loved seeing all the familiar names in the credits. DeKnight! Manners! Craft & Fain! Minear!
I liked the boxing scene. And that's not merely shallow. I think it helped me with his character. He's the obsessive sort who'll inure himself to a beating and then click over into the zone and deal one out himself. I assume that carries over (or we're to assume it does) into what little he has of a personal life, and his professional demeanour.
how it started, why do people volunteer for it, etc.I think that's what the FBI dude's thing is all about. But clearly Dollhouse reaches above him, and has some tacit approval of the administration or something.
On the whole, that first episode didn't wow me. I'll watch next weeks episode when I get back from vacation.
I'm intrigued but agree that it wasn't WOW. However, of Joss's shows, only Angel would have totally grabbed me with just the first ep and that's mostly because I was already in due to Buffy. It was great seeing Eliza and Tahmoh and all the familiar names and Grrr Argh. I'll def be there next Friday.
Fay - next week's was the originally intended pilot. (Sound familiar?)
Next week's episode is episode 3, "The Target". It's not the intended pilot - Fox refused to pony up to reshoot certain bits, so it's in the bin. Then it's on to epiosde 5, then episode 2, then... Oh god it's 2002!
I actually like "Ghost" well enough. It's like The Inside, I think - Becky reloaded. I find the idea of human trafficking to be... erm, FUCKING AWFUL. To put it politely. So I'm surprised Joss has created The Sexy Human Trafficking Show, which is exactly what he's done. But the question is how it's handled. This episode makes it clear what they're doing is fucked up. Loading the personality of a sex abuse victim and putting them in the same room as their abuser, by the way? Sick.
I'm not a fan of the boxing scene. It basically tells you everything you need to know about why not to work for FOX.
Ep 2 trailer - [link]