Say! look at you! You look just like me! We're very pretty.

Buffybot ,'Dirty Girls'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


libkitty - Sep 13, 2008 1:55:15 pm PDT #1338 of 4535
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

set a new record for the amount of negative articles they can write about a TV show

Perhaps it's reverse psychology. After all, didn't our dearly departed faves' reviews tend good to great?


Frankenbuddha - Sep 13, 2008 2:32:31 pm PDT #1339 of 4535
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Kevin, could you post links to what you're talking about? Because I haven't seen anything but non-judgmental "this show is coming soon" write-ups.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 13, 2008 3:50:09 pm PDT #1340 of 4535
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think the press are trying to set a new record for the amount of negative articles they can write about a TV show pre-air with Dollhouse.

Viva Laughlin may have set the bar impossibly high on that one.


msbelle - Sep 13, 2008 3:53:36 pm PDT #1341 of 4535
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Craft thread:

I finished a scarf I started last week. It will be my first knitted gift for family - yay - and yay on being early on Christmas stuff.


DavidS - Sep 13, 2008 5:29:33 pm PDT #1342 of 4535
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Kevin, could you post links to what you're talking about?

IO9 has an article wondering if Dollhouse is getting fucked over by Fox suits. Latest news includes new rewrites and general upstairs unhappiness with the show and premise.


Kevin - Sep 14, 2008 1:38:05 am PDT #1343 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Dollhouse has shut down production for two weeks for script work. Additionally, they wrote and shot a new first episode, with ep 1 moving to ep 2. Both of these were, according to Joss, his request. I suspect it's down to the 'creative process' with a network.

I'm sure the network is busy being the network, but this kind of thing happens. Example: Angel, which shut down production, which had Joss and Tim working on it. Television Without Pity ran a fantastically crap article saying everybody should be panicking, which included Amy Acker being a show killer as a reason why.


Monique - Sep 14, 2008 1:46:09 am PDT #1344 of 4535

I think the press are trying to set a new record for the amount of negative articles they can write about a TV show pre-air with Dollhouse.
Television Without Pity ran a fantastically crap article saying everybody should be panicking
Overlooking how much time I spend in the forums, TWOP doesn't really equal the press, though.


Kevin - Sep 14, 2008 1:55:53 am PDT #1345 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I count TWOP as press - they're a commercial company.


Monique - Sep 14, 2008 2:11:18 am PDT #1346 of 4535

Maybe I'm just too old-school journalist on this, but TWOP and some of these other articles I've seen listed on Whedonesque are still more along the lines of blogs and Web sites, IMO, rather than press. (Although I have to say, I have nothing but love for TWOP, I guess I just put it in a different mental category.)

Dithering over things like this is what blogs and sites do, either because they're honestly worried, because they think it'll be a good way to drive traffic to their sites, or whatever. This results in fan enclaves rising up and either worrying and sending the Whedon Threat Level up to orange, putting their fingers in their ears and proclaiming repeatedly "I can't hear you," or deciding "Meh. I'll wait and see what happens."


Simon - Sep 15, 2008 1:59:59 am PDT #1347 of 4535

As long as it doesn't have the word "troubled" attached to it in future articles, I think we'll be fine.