Every planet has its own weird customs. About a year before we met, I spent six weeks on a moon where the principal form of recreation was juggling geese. My hand to God. Baby geese. Goslings. They were juggled.

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 17, 2008 8:34:12 am PST #9898 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Ok- good to know that Al-Anon is a good first step... and yes, with the lay-off they now have no health insurance. There was no severance package. I don't even know how she is keeping it together, because I would totally be flipping my shit at this point. Unfortunately, I am not sure he has enough "friends" to do an intervention. They were having a similar problem in out of town a few years back, so my friend moved them here so she had a support system, which is basically her brothers, mother, me and another friend, and he has not really made his own support system.


Ginger - Feb 17, 2008 8:41:32 am PST #9899 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Al-Anon can certainly be very helpful for her to find ways to cope. Just being in the same room with people with the same problem is helpful. At this point, probably the only thing she can do for him is to not enable or support him in any way. This can move him towards hitting "bottom," the place where he knows he needs help.


Cashmere - Feb 17, 2008 8:50:02 am PST #9900 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Sophia, with him out of work and the family without health insurance, she should be looking at signing her kids up for medicaid or whatever state insurance program that covers kids. She can call the department of family & childrens' services to find out about specifics of that.

Al-anon is a good starting place for her. Lots of ~ma to her and her family.


Jesse - Feb 17, 2008 8:50:56 am PST #9901 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have no advice, Sophia, but all best wishes for your friend and her family.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 17, 2008 9:01:02 am PST #9902 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Sophia, with him out of work and the family without health insurance, she should be looking at signing her kids up for medicaid or whatever state insurance program that covers kids. She can call the department of family & childrens' services to find out about specifics of that.

Thank you. This is good advice. And thanks for the good wishes, Jesse.


-t - Feb 17, 2008 9:12:06 am PST #9903 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Also, Sophia, it may feel like you are not doing enough by just being around and being supportive, but being married to an alcoholic is often very very isolating, so having your friendship is no doubt more important to her than you realize.

Anywhere that he could get treatment, public or private, is likely to have a waiting list, sadly. But she doesn't need to wait for him to be ready to go in to start making inquiries as to who will take him. And she wouldn't have to take him in when he gets out - there are halfway houses and sober living facilities to help him get back on his feet.


Typo Boy - Feb 17, 2008 9:17:19 am PST #9904 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also, does she have the money to sign up for Cobra? Can she at least check out what the cost would be? As far as I know, if the company offered health insurance then Cobra or some similar program that lets the fired/laid off employee continue on the same health plan has to be availabe for times ranging from six to eighteen months. (Actual Cobra was 18 last I checked, but substitute programs often offer much shorter periods.) Unfortunately these buy-ins are often expensive, but not always. Has your friend at least check what program her ex is covered under, and what the cost of coverage under it is?


Typo Boy - Feb 17, 2008 9:18:28 am PST #9905 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK I'm being stupid again, I was think of this for your friends coverage, but I think COBRA is only for the ex-employee, not for dependents.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 17, 2008 9:21:49 am PST #9906 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks -t. I will just continue to try and be supportive-- certainly she has been for me (this friend found me my apartment when I was doing a show and had to move in two weeks time!).

Typo- That is a good Iidea, and I will tell her to check,but I doubt she has the money. She is more in the position of having a couple hundred dollars left, no money coming in unless he gets unemployment, and him spending the money to buy alcohol. If Cobra is better in the long run, she could probably ask her mother for more money. Unfortunately, I really don't have money to give her myself.

Edit- Typo- but maybe the Cobra would be better in the long run for alcohol treatment plans than whatever the state/county has to offer.


Cashmere - Feb 17, 2008 9:24:08 am PST #9907 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

OK I'm being stupid again, I was think of this for your friends coverage, but I think COBRA is only for the ex-employee, not for dependents.

No--you can get coverage for dependents.