Prepare to uncouple -- uncouple.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Feb 08, 2008 9:17:06 am PST #8346 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Accountant friend of mine just clarified what the "tax rebate" is going to mean, which is that on your 2009 taxes, you'll have to report how much of a rebate you got, and that amount will be deducted from your refund or added to the amount you owe.

Shrift, I think your accountant friend is wrong. I've read a lot of things saying explicitly that *this* rebate isn't like the 2001 rebate (which *was* a loan-advance-type thing).


Aims - Feb 08, 2008 9:17:23 am PST #8347 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

That doesn't sound like a rebate. That sounds remarkably like a loan I didn't ask for.

"That's not a rebate. It's an advance." - Charlie Young


Kat - Feb 08, 2008 9:19:12 am PST #8348 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Kat, yes! This. I vote this.

HA! I've been saying stuff like this to work people for a week or so. Not related to the election, but to vocabulary instruction. It took me a couple of hours to craft an I-message that I could deliver seamlessly.


JZ - Feb 08, 2008 9:20:09 am PST #8349 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Kat, I did respond with something very close to that.

I don't want to be one of those people who throws, "You can't understand ___ until you've ____!" into an argument, but I don't know how else to convey it. I think about the last 8 years of judicial appointments; I think about my mom's friend who grew up in a nightmare family in pre-Roe East Texas and had a shame-and-risk-filled Mexican abortion and a Midwestern adoption before she was 18, and how they both wrecked her and haunt her still; I think about that image we all know of the woman crumpled on the hotel room floor; and then I think about Matilda, and my throat closes up and I can't put forth a reasoned argument. It's too close to the bone. But because it's Matilda and her future, I feel like somehow I owe it to her to try to talk this jokester into taking it all seriously.

And then I go right from there to nut-ripping. So, not particularly productive.


Steph L. - Feb 08, 2008 9:22:02 am PST #8350 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And then I go right from there to nut-ripping. So, not particularly productive.

On the contrary; I think nut-ripping makes your point in a VERY productive manner.


shrift - Feb 08, 2008 9:22:21 am PST #8351 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Shrift, I think your accountant friend is wrong.

I just don't trust the government with anything right now, Steph. Can you tell me where you've seen this, and whether they're referring to the bill that passed yesterday?


Susan W. - Feb 08, 2008 9:22:51 am PST #8352 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Oh, on a lighter political note, Obama is in Seattle for a rally right now. I would've skipped work to go if I hadn't already missed two days sick this week, and a couple of my coworkers are there. Anyway, I just got the following sighting report from a friend of DH's:

"my coworker (who is a political wonk) ran into Obama coming out of All Star Fitness on Olive today. He obviously hadn't used their shower facilities (well, his hotel bathroom is probably nicer and if he's staying at the Westin it definitely is) and apparently he's really skinny."


msbelle - Feb 08, 2008 9:29:11 am PST #8353 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Thanks all. It is not so bad really, I just am not always so good at simplifying things downe to a 6 year old level. I think I will bring up Jackie Robinson for discussion since he is baseball interested right now. We were just reading 2 nights ago about Latinos in New York Baseball, so this might be a logical step.

Anyone watching the African American Lives with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. on PBS?

Thank dog I do have a lot of history material around as he gets older (very close to enough credits to be an African American History minor). I will need to start supplimenting it with African history too, though.


Steph L. - Feb 08, 2008 9:30:03 am PST #8354 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Can you tell me where you've seen this, and whether they're referring to the bill that passed yesterday?

On personal finance blogs; I'll have to dredge them up for you.


megan walker - Feb 08, 2008 9:30:24 am PST #8355 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

That's her! An amazing life, and one in which she managed to wield a lot of power and influence, and yet one that's almost completely hidden from the history books.

I love the story of how that biography came to be, basically with a doctoral student doing a boring dissertation on that period of British history and finding all these letters about Georgiana and becoming more and more fascinated until she abandoned her dissertation to write the biography. It also made me want to write a biography of Diane de Poitiers.

They are making the book into a movie with Keira Knightly (I think) playing the Duchess of Devonshire.

Thanks all. It is not so bad really, I just am not always so good at simplifying things done to a 6 year old level.

msbelle, I've heard great things about a French book by Tahar Ben Jelloun (Moroccan author, living in France) on the subject. It looks like it has been translated into English: Racism Explained to My Daughter.