What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Toddson - Feb 04, 2008 2:18:38 pm PST #7396 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

And they brought her back, didn't they? An AU thing ....


Jesse - Feb 04, 2008 2:19:18 pm PST #7397 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ION, Ellen is really running out of stuff with no writers. Today's show included recreating a goofy Japanese game show, many many animals with Jack Hannah, and a whole segment of old pictures of Ellen. Oh, and a terrible "instructional" video she did early in her career.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2008 2:29:27 pm PST #7398 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They did bring her back. The team changed something in time that meant that she'd never died, but the Federation fell into war with the Klingons. Whoopi Goldberg senses the wrongness in this when confronted with Tasha, and urges Picard to make a decision which isn't the obvious one, because she thinks that will right everything.

Tasha gets the vibe she's not supposed to be there, so she goes back in time to help folks out there instead.

Turns out (and this is where it gets even foggier for me) that she doesn't die back in the past, and gets all tied up with the Romulans. So when "our" universe crosses paths with that one she's back again.

I think.

She left by her own choice--what was she intending to do? Did she have a beef, or a better offer?


Polgara - Feb 04, 2008 2:30:57 pm PST #7399 of 10001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

So when "our" universe crosses paths with that one she's back again.

Wasn't that one the offspring of Tasha and a Romulan?


Jesse - Feb 04, 2008 2:31:06 pm PST #7400 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

As I just learned on Wikipedia, she felt like her role was turning into Uhura, and she wasn't for that -- nothing to do but stand around.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2008 2:38:16 pm PST #7401 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wasn't that one the offspring of Tasha and a Romulan?

That would fit with the timeline better.

I'm so averse to actors playing their original character's parents or children (Dallas, I'm looking at you) that my mind seems to tidy up my memories.

she felt like her role was turning into Uhura, and she wasn't for that -- nothing to do but stand around.

I'm watching TOS right now, and Uhura got some screaming in. But seriously--she kinda went nowhere except back for a visit or two. I wonder if she stands by her decision.


Jesse - Feb 04, 2008 2:41:12 pm PST #7402 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hilariously, the same wikipedia article says she's "worked nonstop," and then names like 10 guest spots.

I do wonder if, as an actor, you'd rather have a steady but somewhat crappy job.


meara - Feb 04, 2008 2:43:27 pm PST #7403 of 10001

...I remember sneaking out my dad's copy of Playboy with Denise Crosby in it--early sign I was queer? Or just a teenage Trekkie? You decide.


bon bon - Feb 04, 2008 2:45:17 pm PST #7404 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I do wonder if, as an actor, you'd rather have a steady but somewhat crappy job.

I would think it would be awesome to work on a soap. Steady work, long breaks, you're famous *enough* but not too famous, and if you're good, it's good training.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2008 2:47:22 pm PST #7405 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I remember soap actors talking about how wonderful an ad spot was. Just being the voice for Colgate could pull in great money. Made me wonder about the satisfaction of their day to day gig. Which has to be a tremendous amout of work. Very intense when you're on--if people can burn out on a 22 ep series, I shiver to think of the strain of a soap.