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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sumi - Feb 04, 2008 9:23:46 am PST #7324 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Whole lotta shit I can't pronounce. Like foreign food. Which Pollan espouses below.

I was visiting a friend in the 'burbs a couple of weekends ago and her local Jewel had a section of British food in their "ethnic" foods section. I bet you could pronounce that. . . although some of it probably wouldn't fit in with his other categories.


Cashmere - Feb 04, 2008 9:27:13 am PST #7325 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

In his defense, he is going to be 32. And also I myself don't understand game systems, and think they're for kids, but apparently I'm wrong and all 30-year-olds play video games.

I spent part of the weekend playing Assassin's Creed and I'm 37. LOVE IT, too.

Some of my great grandparents lived on biscuits, cornbread and cured pork products, plus a couple of kinds of vegetables cooked to mush with more pork products.

My grandfather lived to be 88 on this diet. Including smoking non-filtered cigarettes at age 12, working in coal mines his entire life and being a raging alcoholic who made his own moonshine.


beth b - Feb 04, 2008 9:30:38 am PST #7326 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I was listening to Pollen on NPR this am.

1) He has no problems with you eating a big mac if you want a big mac- but it should be a treat not a norm. He can't eat them after being in a feed lot.

2) his feeling is that Intuit - on their seal blubber and lichen diet - were/are healthier than the average American do to what the average American. ( Of course - if I could eat like that I wouldn't be healthy - because my lifestyle doesn't match)

and by the way - he doesn't like the word commandments or even rules - he has some other word he prefers. - but I forgot what it was.

the other things mentioned were not addressed in the snippet I heard.

Things I do know - Lots of people do not digest corn well. If you are having digestive issues getting rid of things like corn oil, many american non-microbrewed beers, and high fructose corn syrup may actually cause digestive issues to disappear ( corn meal as well, of course).

snacks - do you think of snack as 'extra' food or are they part of you nutritional plan? That tells you if you should be eating snacks.


Nutty - Feb 04, 2008 9:35:51 am PST #7327 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I'm still chewing on the great-grandmother thing, and realizing that, although it's intended as one of those "go back to Primordial Days! When everything was Fresh! and Wunnerful!" exhortations, it actually makes no sense at all, in the US. 1900 was a terrible year for Primordial Days cooking! Food was just getting industrialized, and was full of stupid mistakes and botulism outbreaks and strange things pickled and stuffed into cans! The Jungle hadn't even been published yet, which means there wasn't an FDA!

There's a fantasy in there, about the wonderfulness of the agrarian past, that wasn't even true in the past. I hate the idea of attempting to rest my concept of best practices on a fantasy -- sounds like a recipe for failure to me!


Kristen - Feb 04, 2008 9:42:08 am PST #7328 of 10001

snacks - do you think of snack as 'extra' food or are they part of you nutritional plan? That tells you if you should be eating snacks.

For me, it's part of my plan and there's usually some protein involved. I guess they're less "snacks" and more "mini-meals."


Trudy Booth - Feb 04, 2008 9:44:11 am PST #7329 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I always took the "what grandparents would recognize as food" suggestion as an elimination of things like "methylchloroisothiazolinone".


shrift - Feb 04, 2008 9:48:48 am PST #7330 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

For me, it's part of my plan and there's usually some protein involved. I guess they're less "snacks" and more "mini-meals."

Yeah, my snacks are stuff like edamame or grapes.


amych - Feb 04, 2008 9:52:51 am PST #7331 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I always took the "what grandparents would recognize as food" suggestion as an elimination of things like "methylchloroisothiazolinone".

Yeah, this is clearly what he means -- and as such I agree with it -- but the fact that I've had this same conversation a bunch of times tells me dude has some serious communication issues.


brenda m - Feb 04, 2008 9:56:54 am PST #7332 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Some of my great grandparents lived on biscuits, cornbread and cured pork products, plus a couple of kinds of vegetables cooked to mush with more pork products.

Less than five ingredients, though!


libkitty - Feb 04, 2008 10:16:13 am PST #7333 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I had Chun King chop suey (or maybe chow mein?) in a can for many, many a childhood dinner. Really two cans, because you got the exciting extra can of crunchy noodles to sprinkle on top.

This was all I knew of Chinese food as a kid. I always thought I hated Chinese food, until I visited my dad in Marin when I was in college, and I told him this. He took me to Chinatown in SF and ordered for me. ZOMG, teh yum. I love Chinese food!

his feeling is that Intuit - on their seal blubber and lichen diet - were/are healthier than the average American do to what the average American.

Most Inuit today don't really eat a traditional diet. Even if they do mostly, what I've seen was drowned with soda. In fact, when I visited Barrow, I noticed a lot of young children with gold or silver teeth. It turns out that they take them in to the dentist and get caps on all their teeth as a preventative measure. To counteract the effects of drinking soda from baby bottles.

Assuming a true traditional diet, there are still terrible problems with environmental toxins that tend to accumulate in the fats that they eat. Mercury levels in hair and mother's milk in some areas of Alaska are kind of mindboggling.

edited for grammar.