Spike: Or maybe Captain Forehead was feeling a little less special. Didn't like me crashing his exclusive club, another vampire with a soul in the world. Angel: You're not in the world, Casper.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Feb 04, 2008 7:44:47 am PST #7260 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

When you eat in company, you have a tendency to eat more slowly and less.

hahahaha...clearly he's never dined with me and my friends or, laws, my family. Maybe we eat more slowly but certainly not less! Also, we drink more!

(Although I do get this "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly Plants" and try to follow it as much as I can. And I do try to avoid processed foods as much as possible.)


Kathy A - Feb 04, 2008 7:45:44 am PST #7261 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Oooh, lightning and thunder! After getting three inches of snow last night!


Nutty - Feb 04, 2008 7:45:51 am PST #7262 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Many of the "back to basics" food movements have a certain worthwhile logic, while also being riddled with rules that make no sense and are not scalable. Why is that?

(I don't know what my great-grandmothers would have recognized as food, but I'm pretty sure that tomatoes, bok choi, tofu, and avocadoes would not have been on the list. Fish heads, yes; but, good fricken luck convincing me to eat those.)


tommyrot - Feb 04, 2008 7:48:37 am PST #7263 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Fish heads, fish heads, roly-poly fish heads....


sarameg - Feb 04, 2008 7:49:11 am PST #7264 of 10001

There are things my great- grandmothes recognized as food that I simply will not. Never. Lutefisk, people.


Jessica - Feb 04, 2008 7:49:34 am PST #7265 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Fish heads, yes; but, good fricken luck convincing me to eat those.

Fish heads are delicious! You just need to put them through a food mill to get rid of all the sharp and icky bits. And also try not to look at them too much while they're cooking, because eyes are creepy.


lisah - Feb 04, 2008 7:49:45 am PST #7266 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Nutty, your great-grandmothers wouldn't have recognized tomatoes as food?


megan walker - Feb 04, 2008 7:49:54 am PST #7267 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

(I don't know what my great-grandmothers would have recognized as food, but I'm pretty sure that tomatoes, bok choi, tofu, and avocadoes would not have been on the list. Fish heads, yes; but, good fricken luck convincing me to eat those.)

Well, it's more the idea that someone from a couple of generations ago would recognize yogurt as a concept, but not much of what is sold as yogurt.

The only thing that bugged me about In Defense of Food was his assumption that everyone eats like the average American. So he says things like "you have this much soy/corn/salt in your diet because you eat this", when, in reality, I don't eat that. So please say "average American" and not "you".


lisah - Feb 04, 2008 7:50:14 am PST #7268 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Fish heads are delicious!

mmmm sardine cheeks!


Kathy A - Feb 04, 2008 7:57:31 am PST #7269 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Salon's How the World Works column talked briefly about the Omnivore's Dilemna on Friday, specifically about how the situation regarding the price of corn has changed since he wrote it:

If one had to choose one sentence to sum up "Omnivore," it might be: Our diet sucks, because corn is too cheap.

Except, of course, now corn isn't cheap at all -- it's $5 a bushel (up from $2 at the beginning of 2006). Livestock owners are outraged, and food security in the developing world is the new rallying cry for activists of all persuasions. The price of food is once again a political issue. In the space of barely 18 months we've gone from a scenario in which American farmers routinely overproduced to one in which they can't possibly produce enough to satisfy demand. The prospect of this coming to pass is never even hinted at by Pollan. Indeed, one could almost imagine him applauding, if he had been told when "Omnivore" was originally published that two years later the beef industry would be screaming bloody murder about how ethanol had forced the cost of cattle feed sky-high. Fantastic news! Cows were never designed to eat corn! High fructose corn syrup isn't healthy!. Make corn more expensive, and maybe Americans will be a little less obese.

Maybe this explains why, as Pollan was recently quoted saying in a San Francisco Chronicle feature, that his next book might be on the topic of ethanol.