Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?

Riley ,'Sleeper'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Feb 02, 2008 11:10:38 pm PST #7019 of 10001

I love the Truthiness one--eagle and american flags and all!


Theodosia - Feb 03, 2008 3:06:58 am PST #7020 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

How nice to wake up to the Obama-vid and subversive cross-stitch. My heart swells with pride!


Jesse - Feb 03, 2008 3:44:11 am PST #7021 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Actually, I think I'm oddly charmed by the mythos of the whole Manning family.

Here's my question about the Mannings -- did the same two parents really name one son Peyton and one Eli? That makes no sense!! (Which my coworkers did not get at all.)

I'm just afraid of Obama pulling a Carter

That's exactly my fear.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 03, 2008 3:46:46 am PST #7022 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Kat, I am so sorry about your sister.

Wow, that Obama Vid is lovely. It made me tear. Also, was Jesse from the first episode of Buffy in it?


Sophia Brooks - Feb 03, 2008 3:48:12 am PST #7023 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

> I'm just afraid of Obama pulling a Carter

That's exactly my fear.

The thing is, Carter was the last president I thought was actually, you know, a good person. And that is important to me, even though good people don't seem to do well as president. Which is annoying to me. Of course my perspective on Carter may be skewed because I was a small child during his presidency.


Jesse - Feb 03, 2008 3:55:39 am PST #7024 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But he wasn't an effective president -- that's my worry.

I actually just got a great email from someone I know about why he's supporting Hillary. It was really compelling.


Theodosia - Feb 03, 2008 4:01:53 am PST #7025 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Reaganesque charm combined with some serious, intelligent and organizational chops = Obama. Not that I think Clinton is unqualified, but what I think the country needs at this point is charismatic leadership in the right direction.

I guess I've finally made up my mind how I'm voting, and more important, why.


Jesse - Feb 03, 2008 4:21:00 am PST #7026 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ultimately, I think it's great that I wouldn't be upset with either of them as a candidate. And I think either of them could beat the Republican.


Jessica - Feb 03, 2008 4:24:56 am PST #7027 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think I'm just missing the Obama gene - I got about 30 seconds into the "Yes We Can" video before I got bored and had to turn it off, which is pretty par for the course with me and Obama speeches. I just...I don't get it. Whatever wavelength he's speaking on, my brain's not tuned to it.


tommyrot - Feb 03, 2008 4:44:03 am PST #7028 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was too young when Carter was president to follow politics - what did he do (or not do) that was so bad? My impression at the time was he was a victim of circumstances - the hostage crisis and the horrible economy (stagflation and all).

Oh, and then there was the rabbit attack, and the media making fun of him for that. The "Malaise" speech and his reaction to the energy crisis ("The moral equivalent of war") also stick in my mind as something people thought he overreacted (or reacted badly) to.

I did see a documentary a few years ago that said Carter came into office bringing into his administration people who were naive in what they thought they could do, and condescending to the Democratic power structure of the day.

But my gut feeling (from being a teenager at the time) is still that his presidency got a bum rap... what am I missing?