This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Jan 31, 2008 7:58:20 am PST #6505 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

...can I just set most of fandom on fire, then?

Of course! You never need my permission for that.


lisah - Jan 31, 2008 7:59:41 am PST #6506 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Wanna go to Cafe Hon and listen to the gossip?

Oh I'm getting it via the IM. Evidently they found a meth lab and a bunch of weapons.


hippocampus - Jan 31, 2008 8:02:06 am PST #6507 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

::facepalm::

...

there's meth in hampden?

t /shocked. utterly.


hippocampus - Jan 31, 2008 8:05:07 am PST #6508 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

ok, yeah. that was obnoxious.


Tom Scola - Jan 31, 2008 8:08:45 am PST #6509 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The Giuliani Campaign Spent at Least $142.83 For Each Vote: [link]


shrift - Jan 31, 2008 8:09:30 am PST #6510 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Free lunch today is Quiznos. I think this means I'm going to destroy the universe after all, although I'll revisit the situation after I finish these salt & vinegar potato chips.


Steph L. - Jan 31, 2008 8:10:21 am PST #6511 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Hey, there are some Lulu Eightball fans here, yes? She has another book coming out!

Woot!!!


Typo Boy - Jan 31, 2008 8:10:32 am PST #6512 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think anyone who thinks they know whether Hillary or Obama is the more electable is wrong. People may be stupid, but they are not predictable on stuff like that. Whoever wins in 2008, it won't be on the issues. The single largest predictor of how people votes is party registration (around 38% of votes are cast on that basis). According to surveys about 6% of votes are based on candidates positions on the issues. The rest are on really fuzzy hard to determine things, like "leadership", "people like us" "character" and so on.

And given that who does the best campaigning (along with media bias) plays a large role in determining people's views of such fuzzy things, not really easy to predict. So I would not have the Meta discussion as to who is the better campaigner. Both Clinto and Obama have really good campaign skills. They both have differing styles, and don't think you can predict easily which will work better. They both have pluses and minuses as far as personality. I don't think you can predict which will play better or worse. And as far as media bias: the media will play the Muslim, not-really-black-but-black-enough-to be scary card against Obama. They will play the over-emotional castrating bitch card against Hillary. The will portray the Republican candidate as Saint McCain against the evil Hillary or Obama. So slanders and invocation of racism and sexism will have to be overcome by either candidate, and I would hate to try to predict which can do better.

Both Obama and Hillary have records on issues and public positions they have taken during the campaign - including proposal on their web sites. Obviously we are Buffistas and will talk about what we talk about. But I think the discussion will be both more productive and more fun if we talk about who will make the better President rather than who will make the better candidate. Cause there is real evidence for taking positions on the former,not so much for taking positions on the latter.


Cashmere - Jan 31, 2008 8:12:36 am PST #6513 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

However, I was also deathly afraid of my parents, and that might not be the parenting direction chosen by Buffistas.

Nothing wrong with a little healthy fear. There is a serious lack of it at our house, however.

Truthfully, I was afraid of my folks, too, but my artistic drive won out in the battle between creativity and fear. Fortunately, my folks were so impressed with my work that they let me off easy.

School's finally back on so I'm saddling up the tauntaun and taking Owen to school.


Trudy Booth - Jan 31, 2008 8:19:01 am PST #6514 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Another lady predicted that he would get elected and then assasinated, because "they wouldn't let a black man be president". Which, after I thought about it, didn't seem all that unlikely.

Every black person I've spoken with about Obama firmly believes this. Most of the women say that he shouldn't be running at all because he'll be leaving his little girls without a father as soon as he's inaugurated.

He's had a Secret Service detail from very early on. When they announced it my Mother was heard to mutter, "hope they vetted the hell out of those guys."

Yeah, I don't think its a rash assumption at all that his life is seriously at risk.