It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Jan 31, 2008 5:55:13 am PST #6429 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

people I know personally think that Hillary "can't control/satisfy her man" and therefore how could she run a country.

Um... huh?

Also, what?


Jars - Jan 31, 2008 5:56:47 am PST #6430 of 10001

So it's the second name as much as the two 'x' chromosomes? I see.


amych - Jan 31, 2008 5:57:42 am PST #6431 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I actually think that a lot of the reason they hate Bill Clinton so much is that he's married to Hillary Clinton, not the other way around. It can actually get kind of scary to listen to -- the way the really serious HRC-haters talk about her is almost exactly the way they talk about Saddam Hussein.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 31, 2008 5:58:24 am PST #6432 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Um... huh?

Also, what?

That was sort of my reaction, but my boss AND her husband both seemed to agree.


Jesse - Jan 31, 2008 5:59:39 am PST #6433 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Someone was just saying to me that, if they do genuinely believe she had Vince Foster killed, why aren't they more scared of talking shit about her??


Sophia Brooks - Jan 31, 2008 6:00:40 am PST #6434 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Re: politics

I was overhearing 2 black people on my bus talking about Obama, and they were really hung up on his name. Not necessarily the Osama/Obama thing, but that it wasn't "a black man's name" so they weren't sure if they would vote for him.

Another lady predicted that he would get elected and then assasinated, because "they wouldn't let a black man be president". Which, after I thought about it, didn't seem all that unlikely.


Jessica - Jan 31, 2008 6:02:30 am PST #6435 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

the way the really serious HRC-haters talk about her is almost exactly the way they talk about Saddam Hussein.

What I'm hoping is that she'll have the money to do as much in-person campaigning as possible and be able to win over right-of-center women to her side. My impression (which may be completely wrongheaded) is that a fair sized portion of the right wing knows that they're supposed to hate her, but are a little fuzzy on remembering exactly why.


brenda m - Jan 31, 2008 6:02:54 am PST #6436 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Honestly? As best I can tell, they spent so many years listening to the right wing machine demonize her as this crazy ultra liberal feminist who wants to take your children away to be raised by a village of gay people, or something.

There's other stuff going on too, of course, most of it I think related to the underlying misogyny that a lot of people try to pretend is a thing of the past. She wears pants! She has policy opinions and seems to think that she deserves a role in government just because she sleeps with the president! We didn't elect her!

Nevermind that she was as qualified as any other cabinet member or other appointed role. In some quarters there was just such an outrage that HRC failed to adhere to her traditional First Lady role that it set off years of demonizing her every move simply to justify the virulence of the reaction and make it something other than what it was.

The upshot is that to this day, there are tons of people in this country who simply aren't rational on the subject, in the sense that their perception of her postion on the political continum is quite at odds with reality. And I don't how that changes.

[Among rational people, of course, there are plenty of reasons to either support or oppose her depending on your own bent on the issues or HRC as a person/candidate/politician. But the rabidity on the right is a whole other thing.]


Kristen - Jan 31, 2008 6:05:14 am PST #6437 of 10001

But do authors normally have to register? Allyson--ask Hec or Deb if they have. I guess, if they do, that the party issuing the 1099 might be the trigger.

Someone recently told me that the City of LA requires professional writers to have a business license. If you make less than a certain amount, you can file for an exemption, as long as you do it before the end of February.

Allyson, here's the page about the exemption.


tommyrot - Jan 31, 2008 6:05:37 am PST #6438 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Awesome quote:

"'Politics' is made up of two words. 'Poli,' which is Greek for 'many,' and 'tics,' which are bloodsucking insects." Gore Vidal