This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jan 27, 2008 9:15:03 am PST #5723 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ugh. Sometimes it'd be nice if dogs weren't so doggy. Just sometimes.

(But Kat, I think of you guys sometimes when I pass this bar near here called Kuma's, with a big bear for a logo.)


Kristen - Jan 27, 2008 10:00:22 am PST #5724 of 10001

Huh. I have no idea who Trace Ayala and google didn't even help me clarify.

And that is exactly my point. He's Justin Timberlake's best friend since childhood. (They started William Rast together.) He was also engaged once to Elisha Cuthbert but I'm pretty sure it was the first thing I listed that got him the gig.


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2008 10:08:23 am PST #5725 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was probably the first thing you listed that got him the second thing you listed.


Kristen - Jan 27, 2008 10:22:03 am PST #5726 of 10001

It also got him a SONG. (hee) What Goes Around was written about Elisha dumping Trace for some sports dude.


Dana - Jan 27, 2008 11:25:27 am PST #5727 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Well, this is...stupid.

"We find that the programming at issue is within the scope of our indecency definition because it depicts sexual organs and excretory organs -- specifically an adult woman's buttocks," the FCC wrote. "Although ABC argues, without citing any authority, that the buttocks are not a sexual organ, we reject this argument, which runs counter to both case law and common sense."

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That's right, kids! Listen to what the FCC says about your ass!


Cashmere - Jan 27, 2008 11:29:51 am PST #5728 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

"We find that the programming at issue is within the scope of our indecency definition because it depicts sexual organs and excretory organs -- specifically an adult woman's buttocks," the FCC wrote. "Although ABC argues, without citing any authority, that the buttocks are not a sexual organ, we reject this argument, which runs counter to both case law and common sense."

Did it show the ass on a toilet? Or during sex? I'm confused. I don't think the buttocks qualify as an "organ." It's not like they showed the anus or the sphincter.


aurelia - Jan 27, 2008 11:32:06 am PST #5729 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I think it was a shower scene. They weren't fined when they showed Dennis Franz ass were they?


Consuela - Jan 27, 2008 11:32:52 am PST #5730 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Wait, I'm confused: didn't NYPD Blue show Dennis Franz' naked ass previously? Because dude, I totally found that offensive, and yet they didn't fine anyone!


Consuela - Jan 27, 2008 11:33:32 am PST #5731 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Great cross-post, Aurelia!

I suspect the FCC doesn't think men's asses are sexual organs. Hello, male gaze.


aurelia - Jan 27, 2008 11:42:00 am PST #5732 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I wonder if they would have considered Jimmy Smits ass indecent.