Do you see any goats around? No, because I sacrificed them.

Willow ,'Showtime'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jan 25, 2008 10:51:12 am PST #5507 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I would say if you have savings, you aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck.

It's a pool of a set percentage for a small number of people, so to give someone a bit extra you have to take away from somebody else.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I wish we had that here, because my #2 and I would each gladly give up a small percentage to give our underpaid minion a much larger percentage, but they won't let us! I've offered.


tommyrot - Jan 25, 2008 10:53:26 am PST #5508 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I would say if you have savings, you aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck.

How about if your savings are part of your retirement fund and you'd pay a substantial penalty for early withdrawl?


Pix - Jan 25, 2008 10:54:03 am PST #5509 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I think paycheck to paycheck means you have NO emergency fund at all. I, for example, have no savings account, and often, after paying my bills, have only $50 in my checking account, so if something happens I am screwed, have to use credit, or ask my mother for money. That is how I define it, but I guess others could do it differently.
I'm mostly in the same boat. It's how I've ended up getting back into credit card debt this past year.

ETA: Lest anyone wonder how I'm affording a cleaner given this statement, keep in mind that ND and I are not married and don't pool our money. He covers the cleaners.


megan walker - Jan 25, 2008 10:54:25 am PST #5510 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I would say if you have savings, you aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck.

Yeah, I think of it as someone that doesn't save anything.

But I mostly use it for people who are spending most of their paycheck on necessities.


Jesse - Jan 25, 2008 10:56:40 am PST #5511 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But I mostly use it for people who are spending most of their paycheck on necessities.

Yeah. Living paycheck to paycheck, if you miss one check, you're screwed, like can't-pay-the-rent screwed.

How about if your savings are part of your retirement fund and you'd pay a substantial penalty for early withdrawl?

Too hard!


Sophia Brooks - Jan 25, 2008 10:59:31 am PST #5512 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Yeah. Living paycheck to paycheck, if you miss one check, you're screwed, like can't-pay-the-rent screwed.

You should have seen me panic because the theatre forgot to pay me in December. After I did all my Christmas shopping, and had no money in the bank. I had set up payments on my bills to come out on the 31st, and there was no money! The administrator ended up giving me $500 out of her petty cash fund until they could cut me a check.


Jesse - Jan 25, 2008 11:00:34 am PST #5513 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

the theatre forgot to pay me in December

What a nightmare! I mean, seriously. Forgot to pay you????


Trudy Booth - Jan 25, 2008 11:01:37 am PST #5514 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yeah, living paycheck-to-paycheck has an element of terror that would be negated by any savings.


Steph L. - Jan 25, 2008 11:05:26 am PST #5515 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I have a small emergency fund (~1 month's expenses in a high[ish]-yield online savings account), and a "cushion" of sorts in savings at my local bank (in case monthly bills are high, or the car insurance premium is due, etc.), but for the most part, my paychecks (which go into my checking account) are budgeted and every dollar is accounted for.

That's my definition of paycheck-to-paycheck. Just the idea that you need to budget each paycheck and, as a result, you'd be screwed if a paycheck didn't come.

Well, I mean "budget" in the sense of "spending plan" or "financial plan." Like I said, I'm able to throw half my take-home pay at my credit-card debt right now. If I made only minimum payments (which I know is less than desirable), my total monthly nut would be about half my monthly income. That's rent, car, utilities, gas, groceries, CC, etc.

And I include savings and 401(k) in my budget as well -- as a "budget," it mostly exists as a roadmap, not life support. (Wow, THAT was a crap metaphor. I hope you get my general meaning.)


Sophia Brooks - Jan 25, 2008 11:06:17 am PST #5516 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Forgot to pay you????

Actually it was not so much that the theatre administrator forgot, but her boss forgot to get my boss at my real job to sign off on it. I work in a large bureaucracy! The theatre extra money comes in my regular university paycheck, so I had some money, but $500 less than I expected, and $400 less than the bills I had coming out of my account. You should have seen me, because I was just completely speechless.