Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance. Then we ate cookie dough, and talked about boys.

Giles ,'Get It Done'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 18, 2008 6:07:16 am PST #4006 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

RIP Bobby Fischer. Gotta respect the skills even if it came with a boatload of crazy. I'm curious if medication that might have helped him would have inhibited his chess ability or not.


Jars - Jan 18, 2008 6:11:52 am PST #4007 of 10001

So, here's a random - Are we allowed to confine the divine in any way? Liminal spaces within which the divine resides and is not allowed out of?

Thoughts? Yes, it's for a work thing. Is this cheating?


msbelle - Jan 18, 2008 6:12:22 am PST #4008 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

2 trips to the PO, 2 trips to a consulate office, 1 trip to a bank AND the money order was STILL wrong for a VISA I need to get. Luckily they let me pay the difference in cash. Also lucky that all of those stops were within 3 blocks of my office.


Jesse - Jan 18, 2008 6:16:38 am PST #4009 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

HMOG. Covers of the Sesame Street pinball numbers song: [link]

Also, a coworker just told me that an old document I gave her was "wrong," when in fact it was just not as detailed as she needs--because I don't need that much detail! Just for the record. Grrr.


Nutty - Jan 18, 2008 6:21:23 am PST #4010 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Are we allowed to confine the divine in any way? Liminal spaces within which the divine resides and is not allowed out of?

I can think of places it's not allowed into: a courtroom, an operating theatre. Is that the kind of thing you're talking about?


beekaytee - Jan 18, 2008 6:22:13 am PST #4011 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Dropping in after missing 4000 posts (not even kidding) to pose a hivemind brainstorming question that is not half as interesting as Jars' limitation of the Divine question...which I'm thinking about...

A client has started a high end cleaning service but is finding it nearly impossible to find employees. She's leafleted, craigslisted, asked around the 'hood, employment agency surfed...

Any creative ideas for finding house cleaning service employee candidates?


Jars - Jan 18, 2008 6:24:53 am PST #4012 of 10001

I can think of places it's not allowed into: a courtroom, an operating theatre. Is that the kind of thing you're talking about?

Not exactly. I was thinking more in terms of actual worship, rather than everyday life. I'm really only coming at it from a western Christian perspective, where worship takes place in a church, but the God is everywhere. I was wondering if sometimes (say in polytheistic religions) the God(s) are entirely associated with one place, and not thought to be present away from there.


Jars - Jan 18, 2008 6:28:06 am PST #4013 of 10001

Crap. Now I have to leave work early as I'm getting a lift. But I will read people's ideas when I get home! Assuming people care about my ridiculous theoretical questions...


beekaytee - Jan 18, 2008 6:33:56 am PST #4014 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

What's really interesting to me is that it would never have occurred to me to think that the Divine is limited in any way...especially by place...and I'm not even particularly bought into the western Christian model. But I guess growing up in the USian culture means being steeped in the notion, regardless.

When I teach classes at the church though, one of the things I have to remind the very Christian participants over and over again is that, if they believe in a Plan, the Plan must be in place all the time. The classic, 'when is God ever on a coffee break and why does it always seem to be when YOUR stuff is up for review?"

I guess my best stab at the actual question though...albeit from a pretty ignorant stance, would be the only place I've ever seen Divine held to place was in Tokyo. Shrines on many corners, never entered unless for weddings and funerals. The rest of the time, very, very little spiritual inspection of any kind. At least among the people I met.


Trudy Booth - Jan 18, 2008 6:34:02 am PST #4015 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

So, here's a random - Are we allowed to confine the divine in any way? Liminal spaces within which the divine resides and is not allowed out of?

Some wise old Presbyterian Minister said to me once that "The only blasphemy is underestimating the diety." I wish I could remember which one or knew where he got it.

I was wondering if sometimes (say in polytheistic religions) the God(s) are entirely associated with one place, and not thought to be present away from there.

I know there is a concept of household gods (Rome maybe?) but I don't know if they protected you IN the household or members of the household regardless of where they were.