At our magnet school (which had it's own aerodynamics lab) we probably had one maybe two truly gifted kids. The rest of us were just really interested in stuff and/or worked hard.
Yes. Lucky for you, people may be in danger.
Buffy ,'Him'
Natter 56: ...we need the writers.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Daisy Jane - Jan 17, 2008 8:15:16 am PST #3882 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Kat - Jan 17, 2008 8:15:48 am PST #3883 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Do you find that kids who parents think are "gifted" are actually just kids who are less dumb?
HA! Yes. And frankly, as a teacher I'll take the hardworking kid over the gifted one every time.
Perfect Xpost with DJ.
Daisy Jane - Jan 17, 2008 8:17:00 am PST #3884 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Huh. Now he's a surgeon in New Orleans.
§ ita § - Jan 17, 2008 8:17:52 am PST #3885 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
frankly, as a teacher I'll take the hardworking kid over the gifted one every time
What about the kid who can perform B+/A- without working hard, and so doesn't? How much do you like them?
Daisy Jane - Jan 17, 2008 8:22:25 am PST #3886 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I'm not sure how hard I really worked, but I was really interested in most things-except biology. I always hated biology. It seemed so arbitrary, like "You need this body part, except when you don't."
ETA: Hee! ita is me!
Kat - Jan 17, 2008 8:24:26 am PST #3887 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
ita, a kid who is at a B+/A- is at least doing the work. The kids who irk me are the "But I'm GIFTED" kids who do exactly zero work and get an F, but have been told their whole life how smart they are.
sarameg - Jan 17, 2008 8:25:16 am PST #3888 of 10001
"You need this body part, except when you don't."
Placenta! The temporary disposable organ!
Yes, it's been 8 years and it still freaks me out. No less so now that I accidentally saw one.
Daisy Jane - Jan 17, 2008 8:25:19 am PST #3889 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Ah. Yeah, those usually left Magnet.
msbelle - Jan 17, 2008 8:26:12 am PST #3890 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
ah - that whole thing about how being told they are smart is usually not good for kids. I have been trying to stress the importance of trying and working hard to mac, but god how he hates to try new things and work through figuring them out.
Kat - Jan 17, 2008 8:30:37 am PST #3891 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
We're reading this book for work called Mindset which talks about the difference between a growth mindset and a set mindset. Lots of teachers and parents view kids with a set mindset (Kid is smart or not... kid is good at math or not....kid can draw or not). We've found that especially in the Gifted/High ability magnet a fair number of kids have what the author would deem a set mindset, that kids think they should be able to do something because they are smart or good at it. When they struggle then it means they are not smart or good at that skill set.
What ends up happening is that those kids have little tolerance for flog/flail or confusion and difficulty, a low frustration threshold.
Which is sort of me and math. I got away for years saying, "I'm not good at math" thinking that was a reasonable response. And in reality, I never really saw math as a set of discrete skills that I could master. It was all, "Math is hard. I'm not good at it." with the hidden message of why try. If a kid said to me, "I'm not good at reading" I would figure out ways to break it down to manageable skills