Sir? I'd like you to take the helm, please. I need this man to tear all my clothes off.

Zoe ,'Serenity'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Susan W. - Jan 09, 2008 6:41:39 am PST #1774 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

F Odysseus, C Achilles, M Hector


Kat - Jan 09, 2008 6:42:48 am PST #1775 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Okay, NH primary question....

Did anyone else worry that Clinton's surprising resurgence is a result of the Republicans panicking over losing her as a target if Obama got the nomination? Could her win be partially attributed to an open primary and Republicans wanting her to beat up in the general election instead of Obama who might be more electable? Or am I completely cynical?


Dana - Jan 09, 2008 6:43:40 am PST #1776 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Especially if we're doing Troy the movie casting.

Hey, now, that's a totally different issue.

Oh, I'd so F Odysseus over Achilles.

We are clearly on opposite sides of the Odysseus - Achilles spectrum. At least Achilles didn't lark around for ten years after the war was over, having sex with Circe and occasionally going, "Oh, I miss Penelope."


amych - Jan 09, 2008 6:47:08 am PST #1777 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Could her win be partially attributed to an open primary and Republicans wanting her to beat up in the general election instead of Obama who might be more electable?

It's only a semi-open primary -- independents could vote for her because they want to beat up on her, but registered repubs couldn't. That said, it's possible... but then again, I've also seen her win attributed to (mostly Obama-supporting) independents voting the repub card because they wanted to make sure Romney went down in big flamey flames.

I think any level of cynical is at least partly justified, but I'm also not sure it's possible to get a simple explanation.


Tom Scola - Jan 09, 2008 6:47:32 am PST #1778 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Did anyone else worry that Clinton's surprising resurgence is a result of the Republicans panicking over losing her as a target if Obama got the nomination?

I was thinking that it was a reaction against the right piling on Clinton when it looked like she might be done.


flea - Jan 09, 2008 6:50:39 am PST #1779 of 10001
information libertarian

At least Achilles didn't lark around for ten years after the war was over, having sex with Circe and occasionally going, "Oh, I miss Penelope."

Point, but we're talking *F* Odysseus, not *M* him. He's been honing his, um, skills! Achilles, on the other hand, is clearly more obsessed with himself (and his cousin) than with his women (except as possessions).

Obviously it's M Hector. At least reasonable minds can agree on something.


shrift - Jan 09, 2008 6:51:56 am PST #1780 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I think we should talk about lunch.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 09, 2008 6:52:23 am PST #1781 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

>Oh, I'd so F Odysseus over Achilles

That's what she said...

People are really aggravating me at work today. Why are people so annoying. And why does our student worker (who I found and everyone loves) think he can just stay here full-time after graduation? I am sure someone told him this, but as a slightly older, more savvy worker, I find it hard to believe they will create a position for him. They have also just hired his sister and they plan to live together. WTF????


Nutty - Jan 09, 2008 6:52:39 am PST #1782 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

In re Tommy's Christian dating link, the funniest part about it is the ad at the very bottom: a woman wearing no clothing, in a bed, with bedhead and a come-hither expression. Something like dateswithmillonaires.com. Whoops!

Also, why is it that so many socially restrictive subcultures on the internet are riddled with nonsense characters? Does a distaste for social freedoms cause excessive reliance on evil Word shortcuts and Smartquotes?


Dana - Jan 09, 2008 6:53:19 am PST #1783 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Point, but we're talking *F* Odysseus, not *M* him. He's been honing his, um, skills! Achilles, on the other hand, is clearly more obsessed with himself (and his cousin) than with his women (except as possessions).

Hmm. Are we talking Odysseus pre-war, during war, or post-war? Because post-war, he'd probably just tell you all about his adventures. And Penelope. And how much he totally want to get back to Penelope.

I think you could appeal to Achilles' vanity to get a decent performance out of him.