so does that mean things are ramping back up here in LA? New TV & Movies starting up again?

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There's a ridiculous amount of rancor toward vegans there that I really don't need to waste my time trying to understand.

no you don't. actually, I'm not sure why anyone gets hyper over what anyone else eats. I mean, you want your kids to eat well, and you want them to understand food, but that is about it. Maybe you are concern about what an SO eats, but it is for health reasons- and really you aren't going to say anything

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Why would a person have rancor toward vegans? Maybe I don't want to know.

One quote:

I have no love for vegan self-righteousness, and too many Salonistas have drunk deeply of that Kool-Aid. Your dietary preference is arbitrary, capricious, and nutritionally unsound; it is sublimated anorexia in a very thin disguise. Your ideas are bad and you should feel bad.

Several others in similar veins. Also variations of "vegans are all skinny and malnourished," "vegans are crazy new-age crystal-wearers," and "vegans are all fat."

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omnis: contract info and discussion starts here

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It's in the letters for a review of Skinny Bitch, which is a rather mockable book. It advertises itself as a diet book, then about five chapters in, you realize that the diet it's advocating is vegan. Also, it gives a list of "vegan junk food" that it's OK to eat, much of which is just as fattening as the non-vegan equivalent (I sometimes buy Newman-O's, which are like vegan Oreos, but I'm under no illusion that they're even vaguely healthy). Plus, if you bother to work out the calorie counts of the sample menus they give, it generally works out to less than 1000 calories a day. As a diet book, it's awful, and as a vegan book, it's also pretty awful.

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(I sometimes buy Newman-O's, which are like vegan Oreos, but I'm under no illusion that they're even vaguely healthy)

But it's Paul Newman. So magically delicious and not-helping-sponsor-a-race-team-but-I-like-to-pretend-anyway (Or, NAMBLA) cookies.

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"vegans are all skinny and malnourished,"

"vegans are all fat."

::blink::

Basically, I have no love of agressive self-righteousness no matter what the diet habits of the, umm, self-righteouswad.

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One of my friend's brother and SIL were raw foodist. The knew a lot more about nutrition than most people. They raised their kids that way. ( it was pretty wild to see kids get excited over a raw cauliflower snack ) One day one of their 'friends' called child services on them, because the friend didn't feel they were feeding their kids right. After a though exam,massive health history , and an investigation of the kids diet - the only suggestion is that they might want to add some cooked beans to the kids diets - just for a little more protein

One of those experiences that convinced me that there are lots of ways to eat properly

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Idiots. During an interview with a potential pediatrician the dude told me he wouldn't have my child as a patient if I were vegetarian during my pregnancy because it was so unhealthy. And I ate eggs and cheese! Needless to say, he wasn't selected. And my healthy boys didn't get meat or dairy until after they were 2 years old.

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For the record the boys eat whatever they want now. So long as they are healthy it isn't a battle I choose to fight.

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