Wash: You want a slinky dress? I can buy you a slinky dress. Captain, can I have money for a slinky dress? Jayne: I'll chip in. Zoe: I can hurt you.

'Shindig'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Nov 07, 2007 9:37:39 am PST #974 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Foreign affairs wise, at least Hilary is known to the international community and probably doesn't trigger guffaws of disbelief.

Don't think Edwards or Obama would trigger guffaws of disbelief either. I think there is too much focus on "what kind of person is this?". Are they honest. Are the phony? Are the authentic? And you know all the evidence is that this is really hard to judge. People who claim they can judge this, when given the opportunity in controlled studies mostly show that they can't. They best predictors are: what have people actually done? What do they say they will do? What are the positions of their main advisers?

I understand the impulse to support Hillary Clinton. She is smart, charismatic, and has some really hateful people as enemies. She probably is highly respected abroad. But the U.S. image abroad won't be changed by what kind of person the next President is. Given that we are guilty of aggressive war, mass detention of innocent civilians, along with "disappearing" and torture, the U.S. will only recover its reputation with words, rather than deeds. We really can't afford a hawk as the President following Bush.


Susan W. - Nov 07, 2007 9:43:38 am PST #975 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

For anyone else who's missing their Stephen Colbert fix during the strike: [link]


sarameg - Nov 07, 2007 9:58:24 am PST #976 of 10001

I started a fight between a dba and a system dev person and I think I just made a suggestion that they'll both hate equally.

I think my head is going to explode.


tommyrot - Nov 07, 2007 10:00:26 am PST #977 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think I just made a suggestion that they'll both hate equally.

Nude Thunderdome fight?


sarameg - Nov 07, 2007 10:05:22 am PST #978 of 10001

There are certain words I will never associate with coworkers. Nude is one of them.


sarameg - Nov 07, 2007 10:25:15 am PST #979 of 10001

People seem to have stopped tracking in the fight. Hrm.


erikaj - Nov 07, 2007 10:30:56 am PST #980 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Edwards supporter here...if you've seen him speak personally, he seems very real. What seems like too much for TV is actually his real wattage, I think. I like Obama, although some of his missteps are a little embarrassing lately. I actually like Dennis Kucinich quite a lot, despite him being kind of magnetism-free(which he is so consistent about, it's almost his own magnetism.Policy-wise we agree a lot.) Personally, I like HRC, but I liked her a lot more before she decided that everyone should, and What Gud Said.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 07, 2007 10:39:28 am PST #981 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Mike Huckabee has been very charming on TDS, and I always think I like him until I look at his actual politics. Then not so much.

I made the mistake of voting for him years ago, as he managed to conceal his opportunism, crookedness, and contempt for the people who elected him while he was the minority party lieutenant governor. But a governor that will publicly disparage the people of the state he's in charge of at the convention where he's supposed to represent them to curry favor from national level party bigwigs will never get my support.

I don't guess I find McCain scary, exactly--he's just managed to fritter away every bit of respect I had for him back in 2000.

This is me. Until he voted to let Bush have political prisoners detained and torturedinterrogated indefinitely, I might have voted for him in a Clinton v. McCain race. But he's spent the last 3 years pissing away every bit of integrity he possessed in pursuit of the nomination.

My feeling about Giulliani amounts to "Oh well, at least it'll probably be a gay-friendly police state."


Jars - Nov 07, 2007 10:41:59 am PST #982 of 10001

Do you think there's any country where the politicians are actually nice people and not corrupt gobshites/bugfuck crazy?


Fred Pete - Nov 07, 2007 10:44:40 am PST #983 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Unlikely. Anyone who wants power enough to become a politician probably shouldn't be trusted with that power.