Mal: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous. Simon: Yes, I'm very proud.

'Safe'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Vortex - Dec 18, 2007 1:11:55 pm PST #8027 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I want to make ginger infused vodka, have a party with a ginger themed drink, then give out little bottles as take home gifts. Of course, knowing my drunk-assed friends, I'd have to have someone guard the table so no one will scoop them up!


Glamcookie - Dec 18, 2007 1:19:43 pm PST #8028 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

He did a ginger and something else one. Also a kumquat and cranberry and a red pepper and something else one. They are really pretty and I can't wait to make a bloody Mary with the basil/tomato one!


Allyson - Dec 18, 2007 1:24:01 pm PST #8029 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I JUST GOT A 16G iTOUCH!

SO PRETTY!


lisah - Dec 18, 2007 1:41:45 pm PST #8030 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I got a good sized year end bonus from my boss today. Best gift ever!

I gave him 6-months of hard working! mostly.

I'm worried that someone is stealing my mail. The last few days I've gotten, like, one piece of mail each day! And no freaking xmas cards at all!!! I caught someone stealing mail on the street a couple of years ago but I hadn't heard it's been a problem lately and I haven't seen the lady around who I caught the last time. This is making me verrry uneasy and i'm not sure what to do because I can't prove anything is missing.


NoiseDesign - Dec 18, 2007 1:41:49 pm PST #8031 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

Drew, I hope the ranting isn't pinging you, because you obviously don't have the straight hierarchical corporate relationship with your people, and more power to you.

It does ping me a little to be honest. I've had lots of bad bosses and I take it pretty seriously to try to be a good boss as often as I can. I know that these things aren't directed at me, but I also know that all bosses are not evil, even if many of them are, so it's the absolute nature of some of the declarations that can ping me. I do agree that in a corporate structure some weird peer pressure to take up a collection is inappropriate, but I just don't agree that it goes as far as never buy your boss a gift.


Ginger - Dec 18, 2007 1:45:52 pm PST #8032 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I want to make ginger infused vodka, have a party with a ginger themed drink, then give out little bottles as take home gifts.

Wouldn't you need an actual Ginger at a party like that?

I've done cranberry, coffee and hot pepper vodkas and/or liqueurs this year. I used peppers from my garden, and the pepper vodka is not for the faint of heart.

I have no objection to giving a boss a gift. I object to feeling like I have to give a gift.


Jessica - Dec 18, 2007 2:04:40 pm PST #8033 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I have no objection to giving a boss a gift. I object to feeling like I have to give a gift.

Yes, this. If my boss was someone I liked enough to buy a gift for anyway, him/her being my boss wouldn't stop me, and price wouldn't be any more a consideration than if I were buying a gift for any other friend.

But in a corporate heirarchy, being pressured to buy an expensive holiday gift for someone who by definition makes more money than you is just flat-out rude. (I think I'd feel better about a birthday gift because at least then you're not asking people to chip in when they're already almost certainly strapped for cash. But then, in my office, most birthday collections are a couple of bucks for a card and a cake.)


Jessica - Dec 18, 2007 2:06:23 pm PST #8034 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

(Oh, and hi. I'm back from Cincinnati and feeling very sad and nostalgic. As my uncle said at the funeral, it's not that often 91 years is considered way too short a time. But it was.)


amych - Dec 18, 2007 2:07:53 pm PST #8035 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm glad you made it back, Jess, but sorry about sad -- I hope it's at least the kind of sad that mixes more and more with the fond memories over time.


Laura - Dec 18, 2007 2:12:21 pm PST #8036 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

The only time I felt pressured into buying a boss gift was in larger offices, and I thought it sucked. I would have preferred to get an individual gift for a boss I liked, not contribute to a group thing.

The last 19 years I have been the boss. Some of my employees have given me gifts, some of my customers have given me gifts. It felt personal and not rather than business like. I've always given bonuses to the employees, but really I do things for them at different times of the year as needed, and they do the same. One of them has been using my car for a month or so while she tries to save up to buy one. This is small company stuff though, not a big corporate environment. We feel free to flirt and tell raunchy jokes too.