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Gudanov - Dec 14, 2007 6:11:44 am PST #7366 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Can the CFL lightbulbs not be hidden by pretty light fixtures?

They are a bit bigger than regular light bulbs, but the newest ones manage to coil them pretty tight. Most of ours are behind fixtures now.


sarameg - Dec 14, 2007 6:12:20 am PST #7367 of 10001

I have CFL in the bathroom and livingroom. I like them in the bathroom because it makes a noticeable temp difference in the summer.

I begrudge the one in the livingroom. Really, I want my halogen back!

I think tact and forgiveness need to be avoided when it comes to the VA. Or at least, the VA where they are. They've screwed up so much with her, with potentially really bad consequences, it really isn't funny.


Gudanov - Dec 14, 2007 6:14:20 am PST #7368 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I meant the light, really. It's pukey.

The light seems pretty decent to me though it depends on how new the bulbs are. The new ones are a lot better, then problem is that they last so long that we still have 4-5 year old ones that do have the sucky light.


Sue - Dec 14, 2007 6:15:34 am PST #7369 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I thought halogen were less wasteful than regular incandescent.

I have CFL in all but 4 light fixtures. I don't mind them at all. I think having their light diffused by shades helps a bit. The only place they feel particularly fluorescent-y is in the basement, where there seem to clash with the 1970's wood panelling aesthetic.


Gudanov - Dec 14, 2007 6:16:30 am PST #7370 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I begrudge the one in the livingroom. Really, I want my halogen back!

I wonder if more power might help. 60 watts of CFL bulbs will be pretty damn bright and make it seem better. We had a light fixture with that much in a bedroom and had to remove a bulb because it was insanely bright in the room.


Gudanov - Dec 14, 2007 6:17:44 am PST #7371 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I thought halogen were less wasteful than regular incandescent.

The bulbs last longer, but they suck up the juice. They put out a lot of energy as heat. Nice light though.


sarameg - Dec 14, 2007 6:19:31 am PST #7372 of 10001

I just liked the light of the halogen better. And the dimmability. But then the halogen's rheostat died and I discovered that they no longer sell those inexpensive halogen torchiers everywhere. And then I discovered that I can't get to the old rheostat to replace it. And I was sad.


Gudanov - Dec 14, 2007 6:21:34 am PST #7373 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I've heard that's less true these days. It used to be they'd use about an hours worth of juice to start; I think now it's a minute or less....

This was on Mythbusters. I think with the tubes they used it came out to a minute or something just like you're thinking.

they no longer sell those inexpensive halogen torchiers everywhere.

Yeah, they put out so much heat they were a fire hazard.


Nutty - Dec 14, 2007 6:23:56 am PST #7374 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

But I like the fact that light bulbs give off heat! I have a cat who settles directly under my side-table lamp for that reason.

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all your heat are belong to me


bon bon - Dec 14, 2007 6:25:36 am PST #7375 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The light seems pretty decent to me though it depends on how new the bulbs are. The new ones are a lot better, then problem is that they last so long that we still have 4-5 year old ones that do have the sucky light.

I feel like an ungrateful environmentalist because these are all purchased this year. But thankfully most of the bulbs are with fixtures that will remain when I move, so maybe I can try again with these supposed warmer bulbs.