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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Dec 09, 2007 4:27:09 pm PST #6411 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

When I was a girl I thought I would have lots of kids, then I met DH#1 and he would have been an awful parent so we chose not to have children. That was never a decision I regretted in that relationship. A dozen years later I divorced and married DH#2 who would have been the best dad ever and we planned on having children. Didn't happen. When I married final DH we planned to have children. We both came from large families and he was father material for sure. Since I was getting older we started with the baby making right away.

It wasn't so much a personal decision as how it fit in with my relationship. Being an older parent is odd at times. Most of my friends are a decade or two younger than me now because we are doing the same stuff.

I'm a blind optimist in the face of certain disaster, so the parenting decision was strictly personal with no regard for the world issues.


msbelle - Dec 09, 2007 4:59:13 pm PST #6412 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

It was a factor for me in why adoption was a first choice. I have never really had an interest in being pregnant and I think zero population growth is one of the most over looked world issues, but I also absolutely wanted at least one child. Adoption works for me with those beliefs for my life.


Nora Deirdre - Dec 09, 2007 5:03:53 pm PST #6413 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

How often do people decide not to have kids because of concerns about overpopulation as it relates to destruction of the environment?

It's definitely one factor out of many for us- though when I bring it up in therapy, my therapist thinks I'm hiding from the real reasons or whatever. But it's a real reason. I do think about adopting but the other reasons I don't want to give birth to kids interfere with that...

Who knows how it will all work out?


sarameg - Dec 09, 2007 5:22:52 pm PST #6414 of 10001

P.M. Marc - Dec 09, 2007 5:23:21 pm PST #6415 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I've only ever wanted one. Fertility problems and a high-risk pregnancy means that Paul is also on board with this.


tommyrot - Dec 09, 2007 5:24:19 pm PST #6416 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How would you spell this dog's name: Barkey? or Barky?

eta: Stupid web security - have to answer 5 personal questions....

eta2: and an identity icon and catchphrase....


Trudy Booth - Dec 09, 2007 5:29:56 pm PST #6417 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm a blind optimist in the face of certain disaster

love my Laura

Always assumed I'd have children and really wanted to. And I've always wanted a bunch of them -- but for environmental reasons I wouldn't biologically have more than two or three. At the rate I'm going it is getting more and more likely that none of them will be biological. And, yes, this bothers me a lot.


Pix - Dec 09, 2007 5:33:12 pm PST #6418 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I'm beginning to think I will never have a child for many reasons. Biologically, it's impossible without medical assistance that my insurance doesn't cover (and is way out of my reach without that coverage). Adoption? Maybe. I don't know. I don't think it's something ND is particularly interested in any time soon, if ever. So. I don't know. It's painful.

But I have to believe that it will work out, one way or another. And in the meantime, I have lots of "adopted" nieces and nephews to spoil rotten.


Trudy Booth - Dec 09, 2007 5:35:13 pm PST #6419 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My Father is one of eight and this is a big part of why I want a lot of children -- I always loved being part of a tribe.

It may be worth noting that none of them had more than three children -- so maybe its more fun from the outside.


tommyrot - Dec 09, 2007 5:37:08 pm PST #6420 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

On the bright side, I just watched part of a documentary (on YouTube) on the "Philadelphia Experiment" - apparently the US government has had time machines since at least 40 years ago, and they use them to see what disasters face us in the future so we can prepare for them now.

Yeah, that sounds like a solid peg to hang my hopes on....