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'The Message'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Emily - Dec 04, 2007 5:49:29 am PST #5297 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Oh, tiggy. I've totally been in the "this is stupid and unjust on the face of it, and yet somehow it's become the norm and I have to do it or make an unwanted stink" place, so I'm certainly not going to tell you to Stand Up For Justice, but wow. That sucks. I hate crap like that. Seriously, when's your gift? Do they all chip in $40 for birthdays?


Allyson - Dec 04, 2007 5:51:05 am PST #5298 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Tiggy, my boss would have a serious sitdown with anyone trying to force even five bucks out of my pocket for a gift for him.

I've always very quiety tucked a bag on his office with a plant for the house or something small like that in it, because he has a weird ethical issue about the underlings buying things for him.

You want I should have my boss call your bosses and explain class?


shrift - Dec 04, 2007 5:51:35 am PST #5299 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'd rather have the bonus, although I did get some thoughtful gifts from my contract company years ago, a nice umbrella one year and a nylon cooler lunch bag the other.


Allyson - Dec 04, 2007 5:52:20 am PST #5300 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Really, I'd much rather have a bonus from my employers than some random or even thoughtful gift!

I have no idea if we get bonuses. We are getting iPod shuffles with teh company logo on them.


Jesse - Dec 04, 2007 5:52:59 am PST #5301 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Really, I'd much rather have a bonus from my employers than some random or even thoughtful gift!

Well, yeah, but $20 cash would feel pathetic in a way a $20 gift doesn't.


sarameg - Dec 04, 2007 5:54:36 am PST #5302 of 10001

I've never worked for a place that does bonuses. (Not a big surprise, given my field.) Hell, even the parties are quasi-potluck.


SuziQ - Dec 04, 2007 5:54:40 am PST #5303 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'm sending Big Boss one of my handmade ornaments this year because she has really gone out of her way to help me through some stuff this year. I've worked here over 16 years and it will be the first time I've sent her anything. She is currently off on disability due to some surgery, but she has still be keeping up with office stuff.

But I'm doing this is cause *I* want to do it. Not cause my intermediate manager suggested it or anyone else has prodded me.

There are times in the office where we will chip in for gifts (birthdays, get well, babies, marriages, new jobs...), but it is always optional and no one keeps track of who puts in how much. Usually we have an envelope circle with a card. Everyone signs and if you want to contribute, you put what you want in the envelope.


lisah - Dec 04, 2007 5:57:07 am PST #5304 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

because he has a weird ethical issue about the underlings buying things for him.

It's not weird, though, it's right.

Well, yeah, but $20 cash would feel pathetic in a way a $20 gift doesn't.

Yeah, I guess.


tiggy - Dec 04, 2007 6:03:47 am PST #5305 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Also, I would like to punch tiggy's office manager and bosses in the crotch.

thanks, shrift. wish i could take you up on it and possibly send you a minion to help you carry that 2000 report.

regarding the cell phones thing, i had heard that only the old all analog could trigger a reaction from the gas. that may be a myth too though.

thanks for the Miss Manners, lisa. now i really don't feel like a Wendy Whiner.

Seriously, when's your gift? Do they all chip in $40 for birthdays?

the only time we co-workers exchange gifts is at the company christmas party when we do Dirty Santa and that gift is a $20 limit. we used to have birthday potluck lunches, but people started complaining that they were the ones bringing the dishes of substance every time. even though they signed themselves up to do it each time. @@ so we don't even do that anymore.

annnnnnnnnnyway. how is everyone else's tuesday treating them?


Sophia Brooks - Dec 04, 2007 6:04:33 am PST #5306 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Speaking of X-mas-

you know my crazy office secret X-mas party thing?

Well, it is going to be in Geneva (AmyLiz will know where it is), which is not that near Rochester (50 miles away). And I have costume fittings until after the party starts with a designer who is coming up that day especially. And I have no car in order to come late, and since I am coming late, I can't get a ride.

I know I don't REALLY want to go, but I feel like a jackhole and am considering renting a car. Or asking the designer if I can leave a 4 pm, although that makes me feel like an ass.

Also, I never get my bosses or cow-workers anything, although sometimes they get me things. I have on occasion made cookie baskets. At least I am away from the craxy too large gift buying boss (one year she bought me THREE OUTFITS!)