Yeah but Rudy really really hates liberals. A lot. And that seems to be the core religion of a lot of Christians. (I don't say "so-called Christians" because as a non-Christian, I don't feel qualified to judge who is and is not a Christian.)

I think the "certain kind of Christian Conservatives" are every bit as interested in hating sinners as hating liberals. And the guy is a hard core sinner.

Though on the other hand, his violent allergy to the bill of rights isn't anything that will trouble them.

The speeches he gave in the immediate aftermath were exactly what I, as a New Yorker, wanted and needed to hear. Looking back, there wasn't much in terms of actual action, but I am glad he was there at the time to say what needed to be said.

Particularly since the President was somewhere in a safe location shitting his pants or blind fucking drunk. (Video tape, people, give it a look-see. Don't try and tell me that you can't release any images of the guy because of security.).

I do wonder how much of the GOP base is more than dimly aware that Rudy Guliani did not spring fully formed from the head of the Statue of Liberty on September 12, 2001.

I think they will find out if the GOP primaries are a real race.

did he do anything other than not fuck up?

My father, who was a civil engineer in NYC at the time and a partner in the firm that supplied Rudy with the blueprints to the WTC (because one of the other partners was one of the engineers who designed the towers) and was involved in the post-disaster stuff tells me that Rudy's brilliance was in letting them do their job and letting them (and I'm paraphrasing Dad here) ignore regulations that would have slowed the projects down to a point where nothing could get done.

A Republican friend of mine sent me this "quiz" [link] to see which candidate I was closest to in beliefs. He and I have always gone back and forth on just how conservative I really am and he was curious who I'd get.

I got Giuliani, like he thought I would.

He wasn't expecting my score on Giuliani to be higher than his. By 20+ %-age points.

Now, that doesn't mean I'm voting for him so please don't pummel me!

So what's the deal with blogs like this? They exist purely to get money from Google adsense?

Count me in as another who thought Giuliani got 9/11 right. God, it was such a relief to see him that week. (We lived in CT at the time, so it wasn't the first time I'd encountered him or anything - I knew about the anti-ferret insanity and so forth.) I think he's a great crisis leader and a terrible most-of-the-time leader. Guess which happens more often?

Rudi Guiliani doesn't believe in regulations. He believes in ORDER and that order begins with HIM.

I think there are a large number of people who don't consider Catholics Christians, strange as it seems to those of us who were raised Catholic.

Strange as it may seem to anybody who's ever taken a history class about Europe, the Holy Land, or the history of religion, you mean. The only people who get to claim that Catholics aren't Christian are the Eastern Orthodox, and that's more of a "Mooooooom! She's touching me!!" type of issue.

My father, who was a civil engineer in NYC at the time and a partner in the firm that supplied Rudy with the blueprints to the WTC (because one of the other partners was one of the engineers who designed the towers) and was involved in the post-disaster stuff tells me that Rudy's brilliance was in letting them do their job and letting them (and I'm paraphrasing Dad here) ignore regulations that would have slowed the projects down to a point where nothing could get done.

An autocrat is handy in a disaster.

I don't mean that snidely. It is a real skill and incredibly useful when the world has fallen apart. When people can't do it turmoil is amplified t glares at FEMA and Nagin and half the politicians in Lousiana

But on the other hand, dang thing needs an off switch.

Strange as it may seem to anybody who's ever taken a history class about Europe, the Holy Land, or the history of religion, you mean. The only people who get to claim that Catholics aren't Christian are the Eastern Orthodox, and that's more of a "Mooooooom! She's touching me!!" type of issue.

Look at you with all your books and history and fancyness!!!!!

Literal word of the bible, kid. And none of this idolatrous "saint" business.

I would think so, ita, see here: [link]