Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


Spike's Bitches 38: Well, This Is Just...Neat.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Susan W. - Dec 19, 2007 1:19:41 pm PST #9152 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Which number in the series was it for you when you were wee?

Six. The version that was being published in America when I first read it circa 1980 was TLTWATW, Prince Caspian, Dawn Treader, Silver Chair, Horse and His Boy, Magician's Nephew, Last Battle. Which I think is publication order.


Sean K - Dec 19, 2007 1:22:16 pm PST #9153 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

GOOD NEWS, GC! So happy for you both.


Hil R. - Dec 19, 2007 1:23:04 pm PST #9154 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

That sounds like the same order as the set I had, Susan. Circa 1990 or so. So far, I've read (in this order) TLTWATW, Prince Caspian, Dawn Treader, Magician's Nephew. I think that Silver Chair, Horse and His Boy, Last Battle seems like a reasonable order for the rest. Except that that only one I can find right now is Horse and His Boy.


Susan W. - Dec 19, 2007 1:24:37 pm PST #9155 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Horse and His Boy was my favorite as a child because it had horsies and I identified with Aravis.


Sean K - Dec 19, 2007 1:27:33 pm PST #9156 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I really must read the rest of the Narnia series. I've only read TLTWATW.

Even as a child, I much prefered The Hobbit, though I liked both books quite a bit. I still maintain this is because of my Catholic upbringing (though it was a sort of Catholic lite, as I never went to Catholic school, and my mom was not very into it, and turned Methodist by the time I was about 10).

Even my atheism has a very ex-Catholic flavor to it. I'm quite sure my love of Kevin Smith's Dogma is due to its grounding in Catholicism. My preference for Lord of the Rings, as well.

But then, the teachings of Cathol can be quite moving.


Susan W. - Dec 19, 2007 1:35:25 pm PST #9157 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I like Lewis better than Tolkien for reasons that have nothing to do with theology and everything to do with their writing. Tolkien's characters always feel apart from me, as if I'm observing them from a distance. With Lewis, I'm either in the characters' heads or right next to them.

When I don't love a book people who know my tastes expect me to enjoy, it's almost always because I feel distant from rather than intimate with the characters. I've never been able to put my finger on what about writing style, POV use, etc. makes the difference, though. E.g., Bernard Cornwell has stated that when he started writing Sharpe he was trying to produce something like the Hornblower series, which he loved--and I can see all those similarities. But still, as a reader, Hornblower leaves me cold because I feel too distant from the characters, while I'm a great big Sharpe fangirl because the character connection is just right.

ETA I'm heretic enough to prefer the LOTR movies to the books because Peter Jackson, the actors involved, etc. did for me what Tolkien's books didn't--enabled me to connect to the characters and care about their fates on a gut level.


omnis_audis - Dec 19, 2007 1:39:28 pm PST #9158 of 10002
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Great news GC!! That should make the holiday time a bit merrier.

I was completely oblivious to the Christian thing when I read the books. I've wanted to read them again to get a better sense of them.
Sad to say, but P-C is me. I read the series fresh out of undergrad. I was doing summer stock, and the house host had a TON of books, and saw the whole lot of them and just flipped the pages until they were all read. I recall rolling eyes a few times thinking "o gawd, thats as bad as blind faith in church", but school had fried the brain, and summer stock wasn't helping either, so I didn't hear the clue phone ringing.


Pix - Dec 19, 2007 1:46:28 pm PST #9159 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Huh. Which number in the series was it for you when you were wee? 'Cause it was Book 1 in the editions I was reading as a kid, I'm pretty sure (ah, Narnia! My first ever fandom, back before I knew what fandom was).

Fay is me. Susan, my series (also from the early 80s) started with TMN, too. To be honest, it always bugged me when people started with TLTWATW because of the whole chronological thing. But I'm weird that way.

Great news, GC!


juliana - Dec 19, 2007 1:47:06 pm PST #9160 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

But then, the teachings of Cathol can be quite moving.

Ba-dum-bum.

I am with Susan in preferring the hairy hobbit movies to the books - I quite like technical histories, and I quite like adventures, and I quite dislike a mash-up of the two.

As for faith - for having gone to a Catholic elementary school and a Lutheran college, matters of faith have never touched my inner core. Much like Granny Weatherwax, I'm perfectly happy leaving the gods to do their thing as long as they let me do mine.


megan walker - Dec 19, 2007 1:48:11 pm PST #9161 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

And what I'm angry and Lewis for is not that he expressed his own emotional truth here, but that he never saw that an atheist can have an opposite emotional truth just as joyous and rich.

Much of Mere Christianity pinged me this way. Much of the "argument" was "this is so obvious there can't possibly be another way to look at it."