Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Typo Boy - Aug 27, 2013 5:59:21 pm PDT #9997 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Not making the equation. Just see the an actual imbalance in U.S. Although now seeing I misread the pie chart which actually disproves my point.


§ ita § - Aug 27, 2013 6:14:27 pm PDT #9998 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Just see the an actual imbalance in U.S.

Where, though?

Also--consider the situation that more animals need to be rescued than children, if children are being treated well. I'm not saying that's the case, just another reason the way you're framing your argument can't really be more than anecdotal.


WindSparrow - Aug 27, 2013 7:32:09 pm PDT #9999 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Also--consider the situation that more animals need to be rescued than children, if children are being treated well. I'm not saying that's the case, just another reason the way you're framing your argument can't really be more than anecdotal.

For the most part, I am much more confident that the vast majority of people, even the poorest, do their best for their kids. There are a whole lot of people who do not accept a proportional level of obligation toward pets. As witness the rather greater proportion of families who do leave animals behind when their homes are foreclosed but somehow manage to bring their children with them, as opposed to the much rarer incidence of parents who do abandon their children. While there are frighteningly large fractions of parents who deliberately choose not to vaccinate their children, there is a much larger proportion of pet owners who simply can't be arsed to shell out the money or time to have their pets vaccinated because they are just animals. People who will continue to offer shelter to their offspring should their offspring have offspring earlier than is optimal think nothing of not bothering to neuter their animals, then turn them loose into the world should the offspring of their pets become inconvenient,


Trudy Booth - Aug 28, 2013 5:04:56 am PDT #10000 of 11831
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

But these days, the actors are going to have worse conditions (and by worse I certainly don't mean anything non consensual or usually extreme--there are lower paid stunt people for that) than animals. There isn't really an OSHA for actors, but animals are stringently protected in comparison (on set--I can't begin to say how they are trained).

Well, whether they will or not, human actors actually can speak for themselves if something is amiss. They can decline the job. They can quit.

From what I can recall of the last few animal scandals, it was how they were houses and treated off set that was the problem.


§ ita § - Aug 28, 2013 7:34:28 am PDT #10001 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, whether they will or not, human actors actually can speak for themselves if something is amiss

Clearly. It is why the on set precautions for the animals is more rigid than for actors. I didn't think it was a question, more an axiom.

If you wait for the horse to explain to you that it doesn't have enough juice for the reshoot of the entire stunt, everyone's going to be sitting around for a wall. Children, animals, whoever doesn't have an adult capacity for speaking up for themselves, are protected in the monitored workplace. This doesn't mean they're not beaten at home, but that's issue for a different agency.


DebetEsse - Sep 02, 2013 4:01:51 pm PDT #10002 of 11831
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Dammit, CBS, you do not tell me that you've got all the episodes up and then not include the second part of the 2-part finale. That is not cricket.

Also, I knew I couldn't trust Irene when she was Margaery Tyrell.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2013 11:47:45 am PDT #10003 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I did a dumb thing--I watched a random episode of Bones.

Which seems to have been the season finale. Why is this dude so psychic that Booth can't slip Bones a note and ask her to act normal? It's not like she ever acted normal.


Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2013 12:15:33 pm PDT #10004 of 11831
brillig

I haven't watched Bones in a season and a half. Not since they did that one-year jump.


le nubian - Sep 11, 2013 12:16:52 pm PDT #10005 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

with connie. I stopped watching when I couldn't finish that fucked up dream/weirdass season finale a couple of years back.


Connie Neil - Sep 11, 2013 12:21:07 pm PDT #10006 of 11831
brillig

I think the writers' strike really did in Bones for me. That arc with poor Zack as the villain's minion really needed a few more episodes at the end to properly set the drama. Wretched timing for the showrunners.